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Chat Night Guest: Thomas Hassan
On Saturday August 28, 1999 11AM PST
Edited by Anne-Mal
You can e-mail Thomas at:
[email protected]
In a change of pace, the guest is in the room first!
(Thomas) Hi! *Looking around the room, waiting for the audience*
(*Anne-Mal) Hello!
(Thomas) Hmmm soemthing on mz kezboard here is fishz!
(*Anne-Mal) For some reason everyone comes late, so don't worry!
(Thomas) Arrgh! American keyboard...
(*Anne-Mal) I doubt that members of the TSA knew of this chat!
(Thomas) Probably not.
(Regal) Anne, did Bashful ever figure out who Honi Muffin was last night?
(*Anne-Mal) No, still has no clue!
(Regal) *Chuckle*
(*Anne-Mal) Do you need a different type of keyboard for this chat Thomas?
(Thomas) Anne, this applet assumes an American kezboard. (I`ll appear
to have an accent ...)
(Regal) This should be interesting!
(Troy) Sounds like it.
(Thomas) *Smiles*
(Troy) I always wished you could write more Thomas, I have always
enjoyed what you wrote!
(Thomas) Troy, I'm trying to, but time isn't easy to come by. I am
writing a bit, but not a lot is ready for primetime.
(Troy) Not true!
(Thomas) *Smiles again* I will write the great transformation novel
some day though ;)
(Troy) We need one!
(TH) *Nods* Someday... ;)
(*Anne-Mal) Do you mind saying what country your typing from?
(Thomas) Not at all, I am a German, living in exile in Austria!
(*Anne-Mal) Austria? Gee, for some reason I thought you were in New
Zealand! Silly me!
+ TH has arrived.
(TH) I am trying a different Java engine. Ahhh! That's better!
(*Anne-Mal) I think that proves that you're a programmer Thomas!
Editor's Note- As you can tell, Thomas is now using TH.
(Troy) Definitely!
(TH) *Smiles* Well, I know many people confuse Austria with
Australia, but New Zealand is new to me! ;)
(Regal) Here comes the crowd, Thomas! :)
(TH) *Watches as the room fills* That's good, at least I won't be
preaching to the empty choir!
(*Anne-Mal) Thomas, about how many languages can you read?
(TH) Anne, I only read/write/speak two languages: German and English
(three if you count Bavarian. ;)
(*Anne-Mal) I'll count it! I am amazed!!
(TH) I can decipher and guess at French, Italian and Dutch, which is
good for making sense out of some comics, but that's it.
(Regal) How did you like your visit to America? I really hate I
wasn't able to make it to Phil's place.
(TH) Regal, the trip was fun and the bash was a very good time!
Editor's Note- Members of the TSA have been having real life get
togethers for awhile.
(TH) *Counting the seconds* ;)
(Mindy) Thomas, are you still using Frontier scripting to run your site?
(TH) Yes, Mindy, I'm still using Frontier, but I'm working on
something to replace it, as I don't like the license terms. (and it's
too slow for me...)
(*Anne-Mal) Okay let's start! Our featured guest today is Thomas
Hassan! Creator of the Transformation Story Archive or the TSA!
(Regal) *Clap* *Clap* *Clap*
(TH) *Stands up for a moment and takes a bow*
(*Anne-Mal) Many of the authors of Fictionmania got their start from
the TSA! And the TSA paved the way for the various web sites that
exist today!
(TH) Hi all. It's nice being invited here. I love the fact that we
now have dozens of sites to read our favourite stories. *Smiles and
sits down again, waiting for the questions*
(*Anne-Mal) So I guess the obvious question is why did you start it?
(TH) Why? Well, I loved transformations for as long as I can
remember. When I first discovered the web and the internet in 1994
(yes, I'm a latecomer) the first word I searched for was
'transformation'. There was no site for the stories, so when I got
the chance in may 95, I simply took what I had collected and opened
up the TSA! And then I got feedback, tons of feedback and the site
grew and grew and I was happy. ;)
(HerPony) Thomas, I'm on the TSA list and was wondering.. do you have
a lot of conflict between those who want to read TG versus those who
only want human-animal transformations?
(TH) HerPony, I hate that conflict. I personally enjoy both and all
and find it easy enough to ignore stories that I don't like. I also
tend to come down harsh on those who raise that topic. I know there
are several subcultures that meet in the TSA, but I hope to have
something for all! I hope to have a peaceable middle ground for all.
(Mindy) You say you enjoy both types of stories, but do you have a
favorite type of story you like to read?
(TH) *Blush* ;) Yes, I do have that reputation of liking horse TFs
and it's not wrong! ;)
What I like most are stories where the transformation is a serious
handicap or obstacle that the hero has to overcome. Which means I'm
not so hot on the wish-fulfillment or on the 'and he forgot he ever
was different' stories. I want a fully plotted story with a beginning
a conflict and a resolution. In short, a good story, but that of
course is hard to define.
(Jenny) You have seen animal, TG and inanimate object transforms, has
there been anything that's really surprised you? Something where you
went, "gee, I never even *thought* of that..."
(TH) Well, the animated sofa in one of Mark Gooley's stories was a
bit of a surprise for me, otherwise, no.
Jenny, it doesn't really matter, as long as there is a conflict and a
story. '*Bamf* You become something and you are happy or sad' never
does anything for me.
(HerPony) Do you like stories that concentrate on the transformation
itself or would you be interested where the story almost exclusively
revolves around the after-affects of being transformed?
(TH) HerPony, I want a story where the transformation is the major
plot point, but that does not mean it has to be on camera
prominently. I do like Mark van Scivers TBP stuff, e.g. where the
transformation is long past, yet still important.
Editor's Note- TBP is The Blind Pig, a story universe on the TSA.
(Mindy) When I belonged to your list ages ago, (to much to keep up
with, so I dropped), Posti and Jack DeMule used to write stories
almost in a personal battle with each other. It was a fun read what
these two wrote!
(TH) *Nods*
(Mindy) Has that type of writing ever returned to your list?
(TH) *Sighs* Rarely. Some times it still happens, but it is a bigger
list now and one of the drawbacks of that is that it's not as cozy
anymore.
(Mindy) You mean sometimes the list members get too serious and not
playful like these two.
(TH) Yes. At the moment we do have a few writers who take it terribly
seriously. But fun still happens. As a side effect, the various chat
options like #tsa_list and #transformations on IRC or the Altered
Realities Muck have taken up some of the 'playtime'. So the
'free-for-all' tends to happen there more, as the list is more and
more the central but no longer the only place.
I personally am not completely happy about that, but I realize it's
simply a natural development.
Editor's Note-IRC is Internet Relay Chat.
(Mindy) Yep, if you ever figure how to make it cozy again, let me know!
(TH) *Smiles* I will. ;)
But I seriously think it won't happen that way. But I'm sure the list
in a year or two will be completely different again.
(*Anne-Mal) Many of the famous authors here on Fictionmania got their
start from the TSA. Did you ever feel that you would be inspiring so
many authors to write?
(TH) No! Absolutely not! I was flabbergasted when the first people
sent me their stories and even more when some told me they had
started to write only because the TSA. It was a strange feeling to
read for the first time 'Dear Mr. Hassan, Would you consider this...'
(And of course a big shot into the ego. ;)
I am glad and a little proud of that. And even happier for all the
nice stories I get every day out of that. (P.S. I do hope to see a
novel in the bookstores dedicated to the TSA someday!) ;)
(*Anne-Mal) Do you think it is because you are so open? You accept
all transformation stories without exception!
(TH) Maybe, yes. I think before the TSA, the various kinds of stories
stayed in their subgroups and those interested in the stories rarely
met. 'Transformation' as a genre in itself wasn't defined. Now it is
and we get slowly get stories that play with and expand the borders
of the genre. I do hope to grow the thing for another few years until
it is really large enough to have a solid momentum. Then I may be
giving up the TSA, (or rather pass it on), but don't count on this
happening before 2015! ;)
(*Anne-Mal) I notice that the TSA encourages authors to try and write
stories beyond their interest.
(TH) Some authors in the TSA have written *very* different stories.
Even Stephanie of "DNA" fame wrote a horse TF and Bill Hart wrote
some animal stories. I think it's a sign of a good author that they
doesn't limit themself. (And some authors have written *very* good
stories with nary a transformation at all.)
I am a voracious reader and an open reader and I hope the TSA
reflects that and encourages authors to look beyond the rim of their
soup-pot!
(HerPony) You mentioned you'd like to see a novel in the bookstores
dedicated to the TSA, do you know of any novels seriously in progress
that were, at least in part, inspired from the TSA?
(TH) Yes and no. I know of novels in the circles of the TSA writers
that may some day be published. I don't know of anything that has a
chance to be in a bookstore soon. :/
*Smiles* I'd love to know, so if you do, tell me ;)
(CarrieGore) TH, do you have any advice for TG authors who fancy
writing an animal TF story? It's not something I've read much of, to
be honest!
(TH) Oh! Big and difficult question! *Takes a deep breath*
For one thing, don't be afraid nor intimidated. It's not that much
different. There is a little more research needed. Most people *know*
where breast would grow or a penis and what part of the original body
was the equivalent. In animals it's a bit harder, (And no, knees
don't bend backwards, that's the ankles). ;)
And of course the limitations and the conflict is different. In a TG
story you play with societal roles. And if you look at it closely,
it's much more a behaviour change story than a body change story. A
animal transform imposes biological roles.
You can carry on as you did before, if you're suddenly a woman. There
may be legal troubles, friends may get lost, but ultimately you can
continue your life, if we ignore the bimbo curse for now.
As an animal, you can't go to work again, if you suddenly have
hooves. Even communication may be cut off. So the hurdle for the hero
to overcome is much harder. In a sense it's a more complete bondage
than a 'sex-slave' curse or one of the other staples.
So, you probably have to be careful to not simply make it a 'snuff'
story. i.e. 'The horse nickered and forgot it ever was a man.' That's
as good as if you had killed the protagonist. But a hero who fights
against the circumstances and tries to work with what he has, is a
fascinating read.
Try "Shell Game" on the TSA for a story along those lines. It's good,
not only because I'm the hero! ;)
(CarrieGore) Wow! That's quite an answer! Thanks.
(Jenny) I've often heard that it's difficult for an author to get
published, but it seems like there's more and more amateur fiction
popping up on the net. Do you think the TSA helps budding authors to
"cut their teeth" by getting feedback without fear of rejection?
(TH) I'm not completely sure. Yes, for one, it's easy to put one's
stories before an audience now. The problem is feedback. There is
very little feedback that applies *hard* standards.
(*Anne-Mal) (I think I have heard this before!)
(TH) In part, that's the author's fault. They may feel attacked when
somebody *does* read a story with *hard* standards. We have such a
discussion right now on TSA-Talk.
To be frank, in the TSA as it is now, there are 550 stories. I think
*maybe* 5 of them could meet professional standards and would be
candidates for print. On the other hand, I have a few authors who
*may* be ready for salable writing some day, if they keep it up and
don't fall in the 'I'm already good' trap. I fully expect to see
books in print by some of the TSA authors but not soon.
(*Anne-Mal) Now this is not to be confused with TSA-Talk, which is an
e-mail list which has thousands of stories!
(TH) Oh, sure. (I call the website usually 'the TSA proper'.)
(Jenny) So what's the best way for getting "hard" criticism?
(TH) For one, ask people face to face or in a chat if possible. Hope
that you get slaughtered by Keith Morrison or ask me on the next
bash! Very few people *dare* to give hard criticism. It has partly
become bad form to say 'the story suffered from that and that and
that'.
And *don't* ask for "constructive" criticism. That's asking for the
kid gloves and the patpat-treatment. Ask for tearing apart, for
drowning your story in a sea of red ink. Then maybe you will get
something good and usable back. And after that, write and write
again, never lose faith in your will and ability to tell a story.
(*Anne-Mal) Is it because Keith Morrison is a published writer?
(TH) No, Keith just has opened a website called 'The Slaughterhouse'
where he mercilessly reviews stories and while it takes a bit of
gulping and humility to swallow what he says, he's usually at east
close to the mark.
(*Anne-Mal) That is interesting, 'constructive' criticism means kid
gloves. I assume that this is from experience on the TSA?
(TH) I think so. I usually only hear the words 'constructive
criticism' from those who take offense when somebody tells them the
story was bad and why. Interestingly enough, the writers seriously
interested in the craft never balk at being handled roughly.
My wife is a writer too. When she was in the final stages of her
first novel, she gave it to a few friends to read. To everyone the
same copy, gave them all differently colored pens and asked them to
write in the margin whatever they thought. It worked very well and I
think it's a good method.
(*Anne-Mal) We have heard comments that the TSA is too cozy, everyone
is too friendly for any real criticism.
(TH) On the list people usually are too friendly, yes, but not
without reasons. Many of those who write are *very* touchy and the
'reasonable' people usually don't want to get involved in any kind of
fracas
(*Anne-Mal) Let me open this now for a free-for-all! Remember that
Thomas is still the center of attention!
(TH) *Twiddles his thumbs* ;)
(Jenny) Do you think that since transformation is still a niche
subject, it's harder to get proper feedback? (i.e., if you're dealing
with a small group of authors, don't dismiss anybody entirely?)
(TH) Jenny, maybe. Mostly it's because we're all amateurs. And
usually you handle somebody professing to be an amateur more gently.
(Which I personally think is not good, but can't change.) I confess I
rarely give feedback either. I'm far to busy usually. :/
(*Anne-Mal) How do you feel about the various universes spawned by the TSA?
(TH) *Big sigh* I'm no friend of 'the universe' in general. It tends
to get stuck in a rut and in in-jokes and references.
(*Anne-Mal) To hard for some one new to get involved?
(TH) I have made the public decision, not to accept stories from
shared settings for the TSA, unless they are reasonably
self-contained and very well written. In fact I tend to be far more
selective in terms of quality than with stories that stand on their
own.
Some shared settings have generated *very good* stories, "The Blind
Pig" comes to mind.
(*Anne-Mal) How about SRU stories, which are possibly the most
popular universe here?
(TH) SRU is more of a shared MacGuffin and a nice mechanism to get a
quickie written. It's not really a shared setting
(sue) Thomas, just curious, but there used to be a way to see all the
stories posted via the mailing list on the web. Any particular reason
why that capability went away?
(TH) It's still there. It just moved when the list moved.
(*Anne-Mal) You have to belong to the list to see it.
(TH)
(sue) Thanks!.
(TH) t0 hosted the TSA for four years until they couldn't afford it
anymore because I ate half to two-thirds of their bandwidth. They
called me up to tell me that the TSA was costing them $2000 every
month and that they regretted to have to ask me to move.
(sue) Yes..it used to be t0, then it "disappeared", that was about
the time Fictionmania was getting active and the TG stories seemed to
flow over here.
(*Anne-Mal) Would you welcome TG stories that have a transformation
theme that are posted on Fictionmania for the TSA or TSA-Talk?
(TH) Sure I welcome TG. I'm just, well, picky. I have, I think, 5 TG
stories earmarked for the next update which should be done soon
unless *Real Life* intervenes. I probably won't accept an SRU quickie
and many of the Fictionmania stories are too much a 'stroke vehicle',
but well-written TG? Gimme!
(Jenny) Do you find it difficult to maintain the web site and keep up
with the stories on the list? (I know I've certainly had that problem
lately.)
(TH) Yes, it is difficult. At the moment for instance I'm busy with a
lot of jobs (I'm a freelancer) and am rotating, but I still enjoy
doing it. (And sometimes I even read every post to TSA-talk.) ;)
(*Anne-Mal) So you feel that the TSA takes the best from TSA-Talk?
(TH) Not only from there. I don't 'graze' anymore, but accept
submissions and quite a few good stories come from outside TSA-talk.
But yes, I do hope to have 'the best' of TSA-talk.
(And if you ever meet 'the Professor' tell him to submit his Ovid stories!)
(*Anne-Mal) He is supposed to be having a chat next month, I will tell him!
(Mindy) The professor is amazing! :)
(TH) *Nods* He is a very fine writer, though I would like to see a
horse someday in one of his stories. ;) I enjoy his stories very much.
(sue) Thomas, I must go, but thank you for your time and starting the
TSA list. Many good things have flowed from your efforts!
(Mindy) Anne-Mal, did you promise Thomas a bale of hay for being here today?
(TH) *Grins at Mindy*
(*Anne-Mal) With your budget Mom, all I could do is just promise!
What are some of your favorite books?
(TH) Oh! Now I have to confess, eh? Only one of them is TF-related. ;)
"The Egghead Republic" by Arno Schmidt. (and all by him in fact.) If
you can find it, get it.
Anything by D. Coupland. He's a great writer
Ian M. Banks. For sheer chuzpa and style.
I also read the SF digests monthly , a lot of short fiction. I like
Sterling and oh, I forget all the names...
(and of course everything by Jack Chalker as a guilty pleasure ;)
(*Anne-Mal) I think everyone reads Jack Chalker!
(TH) *Grins*
(Jenny) I was wondering when Chalker's name was going to come up. ;-)
(TH) Actually, and this is something I hope to germinate in the long
run on the list, I like his stories most when he shows us transformed
*societies*, not just individuals. I'd love to see a tour through the
fluxlands, for instance
(*Anne-Mal) I agree. No one seems to write about the long term
effects of a change on either list!
(TH) *Nods* I will post a public 'challenge' for want of a better
word, to the TSA proper and I will add a department for that,
hopefully to attract stories. *Leans back and accepts a glass of
water*
(Regal) I have to go, but the chat was very informative, Thomas.
Thank you once again for TSA. When I first got on the internet, I
searched for Transformations also! For me, the TSA was there! :)
(*Anne-Mal) What do you think of the Fictionmania site and TG Fiction list?
(TH) Err, would you believe I'm not subscribed? I was on Nostrumo's
list and somehow never managed to switch subscriptions. *Hides in
shame* ;)
(*Anne-Mal) Well, you only have so much time!
(TH) If Mindy would tell me where to subscribe I might even mange to do so. ;)
(Mindy) I have a hard enough time with e-mail traffic, I can't even
keep up with it all, a lot less then the TSA list however
(TH) *Nods* Well I have a good mail client with lots of filters. I
usually read the other lists on quiet afternoons
(Mindy) Yes, thank the person that invented e-mail filters!
(TH) *Subscribed* Oh, yes! I would be shot without filters. Webmaster
talk: Mindy, what do you use for the site?
(Mindy) Webstar, that is the main server. Fictionmania is spread over
3 G3's Webcatalog is the data base engine.
(TH) *Smiles* I would love even one G3! ;) Webcatalog, I need to have
a look at that. never seen it!
(Mindy) There are now 6 servers in the Fictionmania/Maniapages farm,
2 imacs. One for e-mail and downloads, the other for the list and
server monitoring software.
(TH) *Wow* I hack away on my aging 5400 ;) And the list and the TSA
are on a UNIX machine somewhere in Colorado I think. ;)
(*Anne-Mal) This info won't help ping attacks will it?
(Mindy) No, a firewall stops the ping attacks. I can not wait for a MAC OSX!
Maybe next March! Now it just tosses off the pings, filtering the
ping attack logs to one mail box. I look at them now and then.
(TH) I have promised my wife an ibook for Xmas and after that I will
get me a blue-white. You had some trouble I remember, did you ever
find the guilty parties?
(Mindy) Yes a person in North Carolina.
(TH) What did you do with him?
(Mindy) I reported him to att.net, took probably 6 e-mails between us
to get them kicked off! It was a pain to get it down. And after that
one I have never forced the issues on the others
(TH) *Nods* Did he give any reason why he did it?
(Mindy) I never heard from the person.
(TH) *Sigh* Stupid persons!
(Mindy) It was getting att.net to acknowledge it was even happening
was the hard part, even sending them multi logs did not help. Finally
I got them to monitor this person and they caught them.
(TH) *Blinks* Why? What did they say?
(Mindy) They were nervous that I might be sending in a false
complaint! This happened between this last Xmas and New Years, their
there staff was on the low side. I think if they would not have had
so many people out it would have happened faster.
(TH) *Nods* Probably and some may have recognized the significance
earlier. Would you be very disappointed if I'd go soon, I would love
to get some sleep! ;)
(Mindy) No problem! This is your chat and it is late over there!
(TH) OK, Thanks to you all for having me here! Listening and asking.
(*Anne-Mal) So with all the problems, has it been worth it?
(TH) Anne, the TSA? Oh sure! I have met very nice people through it
and gotten a lot of very nice stuff to read. ;)
(Mindy) *Snicker* By running a site you get to read lots of stories
before anyone else! :)
(TH) Mindy, exactly! ;) I enjoyed this very much.
(Jenny) Me too! Thanks Thomas!
(*Anne-Mal) I have to ask one last question!
(TH) Ask, Anne!
(*Anne-Mal) You on the TSA have real get togethers, meeting in real
life. Would you recommend it?
(TH) Yes. I enjoyed the bash very much. It was a nice relaxed social
event, there was time for idle chat and for serious discussion. Yes
I'd recommend it, but only if you can keep it social and not slide
into 'commercial convention' territory. There is always a danger
meeting people in *REAL LIFE*, whom you only know electronically, but
for the TSA and me it was definitely worth it!
(*Anne-Mal) How many were at the bash?
(TH) There were 50 people on this bash and I guess it will grow!
(*Anne-Mal) WOW!
(Mindy) Yikes! 50 people!
(Mindy) One last question, would you rather be a stallion or a mare Thomas? :)
(TH) *Thinks*
(Mindy) Or maybe a gelding? :)
(TH) Probably a stallion.. ;) A mare is tempting and I could live
with being a gelding. (Although not that well!) I *am* interested in
TG and if I had the option I'd go for it for a few years. ;)
(*Anne-Mal) Do you have any closing comments Thomas?
(TH) No, Just that I enjoyed it and that I hope you won't lose hope
at the very irregular intervals in which the TSA is updated. ;) Good
Night, all and have a nice evening and weekend!
(*Anne-Mal) Thank you very much for showing up!
(Jenny) Thanks again!
(Mindy) Thanks a ton Thomas, I enjoyed this!
(TH) Thanks all again and Good-Bye!
End of Chat
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