Hard Pounding Raine
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It was a very warm night with a slight breeze blowing, it had been very hot for the last week but the weather forecast said there would be rain. 12 year old Kim was sitting under one of the trees in the park watching a group of boys playing football. After awhile some of the boys left leaving just 16 year old Steve and 17 year old Mark both who lived near Kim. Kim’s 10 year old sister appeared and sat down with Kim, a few seconds after Mary had arrived the girls felt a few spots of rain and moved further back. The rain started to get heavy both boys carried on playing football enjoying the coolness of the rain. The rain got very heavy but the boys carried on playing, their shorts were sticking to their bodies, their shirts were being used as goal posts so they were topless. The rain was making the boys shorts transparent and soon they were totally see through and as neither boy wore underpants it was as if the boys were naked. Both girls were watching with mouths wide open enjoying what they were seeing. Kim looked at Mary and said ” look at those cocks they are big” Mary just watched enjoying the sight, Kim said ” Steve has the biggest it must be 7 inches” Mary nodded said ” why has Mark not got any hair ” Kim told her some boys shave the hair off. Mark looked at Steve said ” think they seen enough” Steve replied ” lets give them a proper show lets bone up” Steve smiled said ” lets go the whole hog and wank off” the boys turned their backs on the girls and fondled them selves till they had full erections, when they turned round both girls gasped, Kim said ” fuck they got hard ons Steve must be 9 inches Mark must be 7″ both boys lowered their soaking wet shorts and started to stroke their solid dicks, both girls watched in awe, after a few minutes Mark’s knees buckled and 4 squirts of perm flew out followed by a couple of shorter spurts, then Mark squirted in 3 spurts and 2 short one’s. Both girls sat mouths wide open it was the first time they had seen boys masturbate. The boys picked up their shirts walked away turning back to wave at the girls before disappearing over the hill.
The night feels hot and humid against my skin. No sign of a breeze through the open sliding door. A thunderstorm in the making, I think as I look at the clock. God, I wish it would rain. I really do love the rain. The air is heavy around us as we lay in our bed. I turn to look at you, see you lying beside me. I think about how I never get tired of watching you sleep and the happiness you bring to me. The sheet is pushed down, your body is naked and white against the darkness of the room and I...
I was on my way home from a three day weekend ride on my motorcycle when I stopped about ninety miles from home to get something for lunch. They had the news on and when the weather came up they said a front was coming through and we were in for thunderstorms and a temperature drop of around twenty degrees. I finished eating and pulled back on the road looking at some angry dark clouds off in the distance. I decided to hurry like hell and see if there was a chance of getting home before it hit....
Straight SexLadies, if you like this story, and want to exchange more like this, please email me at The rain had continued all day. Standing at his office window, he looked at the street below. It was already flooded. This could easily get worse, he thought. He was the last one left at the office. As the director, he never left before all his employees had already left. Deciding to call it a day, he shut down the office and hurried to his parked car, holding his office bag and newspaper over his head....
Great Rite************************************************* Copyright Oggbashan June 2016The author asserts the moral right to be identified as the author of this work.This is a work of fiction. The events described here are imaginary; the settings and characters are fictitious and are not intended to represent specific places or living persons.*************************************************I had never expected to be King. One of my uncle’s sons should have inherited the...
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Lolly sat in her car, she should have listened to her dad, the car was a pile of shit! And it had to decide to die on her, as she was on a country road miles from anywhere, and now it was raining! AND her mobile was dead! She had tried fixing it herself, but only succeeded in getting soaked to the skin! Today just wasn’t her day! She sat back in her seat and closed her eyes. She thought about her latest victim, she still wouldn’t talk, though she was opening up about her life in general. The...
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