Tom Leah and Clarence Octavia Part 3
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To recap this series: my wife Leah, a nurse at a major hospital in Detroit had struck up a friendship with a co-worker, a black nurse named, Octavia Brown. This friendship paved the way for a wife swap session which proved to be so enjoyable that everybody wanted to continue. However Octavia had two boys and was reluctant to participate in an orgy in the same place as her kids especially considering the noises we all make during this exciting sex. Her mother who baby-sat while Octavia was at...
Group SexWhen I was a graduate student at Wayne State University my wife Leah was a nurse at one of the major hospitals in Detroit. One day when Leah arrived from work she was clearly flustered but excited. She told me that within the past month she had struck up a friendship with a co worker, a black nurse named Octavia Brown. As the girls became better acquainted conversation inevitably turned to sex and so comparisons of the prowess of each husband was naturally a topic. This day Octavia startled...
InterracialOctavia Chapter 7 Der Zirkel der Monde der Lofn von Ricky Zimmermann Wir stehen auf dem Innenhof des Schlosses und warten auf das Auto, welches uns in das Hauptquartier des Zirkels bringen soll und ich geniesse, wie ich seit langem das erste Mal wieder mehr als nur Beine, Schuhe, Rocksaum und Bodenbelag sehen kann, wenn ich mich draussen bewege, beziehungsweise bewegt werde. Wir (das heisst Octavia als meine Unterw?sche und ich in ihrem K?rper, der von ihr kontrolliert wird, inzwischen n...
The sun streamed through the window of Sally Havery’s bedroom as she opened the slats of the blinds. The sky was blue and the birds were singing. It was going to be a good day. Sally slipped off the t-shirt and shorts that she wore in bed and padded naked into her en-suite shower. Sally lived at the family home with her mother and her older sister, Emily. Both young women had opted to stay at home with their mother for financial reasons. Sally was heavily in debt with her university tuition...
Octavia von Erika Zimmermann Etwa zwei Tage nachdem ich bei Octavia war, sp?rte ich zum ersten Mal etwas wie eine Macht, die mich zu steuern suchte. Dass dies mit meinem Besuch bei Octavia zusammenhing, konnte ich mir allerdings erst zusammenreimen, nachdem ich bereits einige seltsame Erlebnisse hinter mir hatte. Mein Name war und ist eigentlich immer noch Ernst Schmied. Die meisten nannten mich Ernie. Ich verdiente damals meine Br?tchen noch als Zeitungskurier. Um drei Uhr morgens...
Octavia zieht sich rosa Pumps an. Auch ihr Minikleid ist in pastellrosa gehalten. Der eng anliegende Stoff des Kleides umschmiegt meine Maschen ganz sanft. Ihre Figur braucht keine formenden, korsettartigen Kleidungsst?cke, um eine schmale Taille zu suggerieren. Nein. Die feinen Stoffe m?ssen nur ihren Formen entlang flie?en - kein Korsett k?nnte etwas an ihrer Silhouette verbessern. Das Kleid ist nun so kurz, dass ich aus ihrem Schritt heraus nun doch schon ein recht gro?es B...
Wochen vergehen. Inzwischen bin ich richtig gut als dressierte Strumpfhose bzw. Mann-Objekt-Wandler auf Befehl. Heute hatte Octavia mich nach dem Ausziehen weder in Ernst Schmied verwandelt noch in den W?schekorb geworfen. Sie stellte mich einfach in eine Vase mit Wasser. - ? - Irgendwas habe ich verpasst, aber nun richte ich meine Bl?te langsam gegen das Licht und nehme gierig das Wasser in meinen Stiel auf. Meine zwei Bl?tter richten sich auf. Octavia sagt "Gut" und zieht mich aus der Vas...
Octavia chapter 6 by Ricky Zimmermann Als sie mich aus der Handtasche fummelt, gl?cklicherweise ohne mir eine Laufmasche an deren Verschluss zu verpassen, befinden wir uns in einem Raum, der verd?chtig nach mittelalterlichem Turmzimmer einer Burg aussieht. Ich nehme die gerundeten W?nde und das Spinnrad in einem der vier Erker wahr, die so etwas wie die Ecken eines Kreise bilden w?rden, wenn es dann so etwas g?be. Die einzigen Fenster befinden sich in diesen Erkern. Wobei bei zwei dieser Bal...
Note : This story is completely fictional! This is the series where my wife Leah and I agreed to wife swap with an Afro-American couple, Clarence and Octavia. Now Octavia had two boys and was reluctant to participate in an orgy in the same place as her boys. Her mother who baby-sat while Octavia was at work was only willing to baby-sit once a month for social occasions. Thus we decided to indulge in threesomes in-between the time when all four of us could do an orgy. The routine established was...
Group SexOctavia Part II Ernst Schmied versteht die Welt nicht mehr. Es ist ganz eindeutig, obwohl es gar nicht sein kann. Er kleidet die sch?nen Beine Octavias als Feinstrumpfhose... Aufgew?hlt von Horror und Erregtheit versuchte ich anhand des Bodens, den ich neben den Schuhen von Octavia vorbeifliegen sah, festzustellen, wo sie hingeht. Das Zentrum meiner Sicht war in meinem und ihrem Schritt und somit von ihrem Kleid so eingeengt, das ich nur nach unten entlang der von mir seidig...
Octavia Chapter 3 Die beiden Frauen fahren in ein unterirdisches Parkhaus. Ich sehe den Betonboden mit typischen ?lspuren in typischer Neonbeleuchtung und wie ich und sie, sie und ich in harmonischer Synchronit?t einen Pumps vor den anderen setzen. Der Saum ihres Kleides umspielt meine und ihre Schenkel - eben die ihrer Strumpfhose und die aus ihrem Fleisch und Blut - eigentlich f?hle ich mich gut... Ich meine kurz eine automatische Glasschiebet?re gesehen zu haben, als wir sodann mit n...
Once upon a time a cute little 17-year-old girl called Little Red Riding Hood lived in the dessert town of Las Vegas. As she grew older everyone came to call her simply Red. Her skin was alabaster white, her eyes a shade of violet and her hair was flaming red. Red lived with her mother and 6th stepfather in a small house with a pool in the suburbs of the city. Her mother Sassy, who was a manufactured blond, used the pool everyday to keep her completely tanned body in perfect shape and tan. Each...
First TimeJared propped himself up on the little camp stretcher he was sleeping on and sighed one massive sigh of relief. He looked at his watch again then quietly made his way down to the bathroom to get ready for his day. It was Monday morning and Jared was about to head off to Blanke Schande College for a week of teaching as a substitute tutor in the Science and Mathematics Department of the campus. As Jared turned into the bathroom he quickly looked back at the two doors just opposite him. One...
This was my first week home after my freshman year at university studying finance. Deep asleep I had a dream, a very sexy dream and I realized that is what woke me. I reached down and felt myself. I was wet and swollen. After only five days away from my room mate and lover, Sandy, I was incredibly horny. I lay back down and felt myself. If I masturbated right now, it would be hours before I could get back to sleep and tomorrow I was going hiking and needed the rest. I don’t drink milk or...
Jared's scheme to rid trophy-wife Tabitha of her step-daughter's blackmailing influence is reaching its raunchy naked climax...At least Sorrel did not have to bend too far to access the head of the towering phallus, Tabitha thought. She stared in bizarre fascination as her step-daughter gobbled Jared into her mouth and guzzled busily on him, hamstrings stretched tautly and bum thrusting behind. Tabitha had never considered herself a malicious person, but a unique sense of triumph welled up...
Cheating“And don’t you guys forget to keep up on all your assignments. No slacking now. This is university we are talking about now, not just grade school.” Jared Reznik issued that one last exhortation just as the last of Vanessa Benson’s new friends were leaving the house. All five of them laughed and agreed to do this as they piled into Tracey’s car and drove off into the night leaving Vanessa, Gloria and Jared alone at last in their own home. “Well, I’m pooped” said Gloria as she started...
DfD aka Daughter For Dessert! Sometimes, when I’m deep in the depths of a week-long masturbation binge, I forget to eat. It’s kind of ironic, given all the cherry popping and creampie filling I see on an hourly basis, but the body just forgets all about sustenance when it’s trying to clean the pipes of all that built-up, sticky sex goo. Daughter for Dessert is a perverted videogame that addresses the issue head-on, with hopefully some head-giving included.Daughter for Dessert is hosted by...
Free Sex GamesAfter graduation, I rented an apartment from an octogenarian couple, the Williams’. They were a family of breeders, as I will explain. Mr. and Mrs. Williams had five children. Their eldest daughter who had married a Greek had five children. Their eldest son had three kids that were all grown up but had recently remarried a woman his daughter’s age, and a second baby from this union was already on the way. Their middle son was gay and lived with a partner a thousand miles away. Their younger...
Gay MaleI was never afflicted by pigmentation paralysis and it was never an issue in my life.One evening, that mindset was put to the test, nonetheless, when I met the most incredible black man at a party. Jasper, the man in question, was unbelievably good-looking and had a regal bearing. From the moment I met him, I was totally captivated by him. I had never been on a date, let alone slept with an African American. In fact, I hated the term African American. On a continent, where everyone other than...
Gay MaleFilling in her time sheet as quickly as she could, Holly tosses back her brunette hair and reaches for her cell. It’s Friday night, and she’s meeting her boyfriend for dinner, despite both of them having to work really late. Multi-tasking the best she can, searching her recent contacts on her cell, she finds Tony's name before pressing the dial icon. Completing her time sheet, and logging off her computer, she was now ready for date night to begin, all be it quite late. The phone ring tone...
Group SexI met Maria when I worked as the head bartender at an upscale California restaurant and lounge. She also worked at the restaurant as the eye candy known as hostess. She had just finished up her senior year of high school and took the job as a summer gig before heading off to college. She was smart and very attractive, but I have a weakness for Latinas. She was a perfect hostess; dressed always in nice summer dresses and various heels, a smile that never disappeared, and a cute way of turning...
Jennifer Marie Stephenson was apprehensive, but tried not to show it. She had tried not to think about her husband's business, but it was getting very hard to ignore. It seemed so promising at first. Her nerdy husband had spent years of his spare time working on his hobby. He had been a professor of chemistry at the local university. In his spare time, he had dabbled in the belief that he could develop a new formula and process for coloring plastics that would cut out some of the costly steps...
“Tiramisu, please.” Hell, after compiling financial reports all damn day and being stood up, I deserved a little sugar. “Would you like coffee?” “Yes, thank you... decaf black.” As the server turned to walk away, I felt a velvety swipe on the back of my neck. Jon bent his six foot two frame at the waist, dry-kissed me on the mouth, smiled, and asked, “Are you sure you don’t want any cream and sugar with that decaf or a little caffeine with that coffee? You may need some endurance insurance for...
Straight SexPeter pulled his new Jeep Grand Cherokee up to the curb outside Lauren’s house just as the door to the house opened. Just weeks ago, he had taken her over to the Jeep dealership to pick out his new company car. He told her that once they were married, she would be allowed to drive it; right now, the insurance wouldn’t cover her properly, since they weren’t married. She picked out a nice metallic blue model. Peter soon enough had his doubts about the wisdom of this. The next day, Lauren snuck...
Story so far: Sweet-natured Libby has had her carnival crush Jared stolen from her by fair-weather friend Sasha. When the shameless carny starts to hit on her while still dating Sasha, Libby decides to teach them both a lesson - by dressing to kill at a Halloween costume party. But does she know exactly who she's dealing with in Jared? “Go on, you look fabulous in that. You know it,” the salesclerk at the costume shop said to Libby. If she was going to do this, she had to do it well. Halloween...
Seduction“Him?” Sasha asked slyly. “You like?”“He’s … He looks fun, that’s all.” Libby cast her eyes down.They’d been buying pick ’n’ mix when Libby spotted the guy collecting tokens at the roller coaster. He wore the regulation orange security jerkin over a leather waistcoat, both sleeveless (Libby’s mum would have urged him to wrap up that autumn evening) to reveal muscled arms. A pattern of jagged tattoos ran shoulder to elbow on the left. His dark hair was pony-tailed, showing off his broad grin...
Straight SexLanguidly, Tabitha walked through the downstairs hall, swaying her hips to maximize the swing of her well-formed ass. The cock-shaft around which her fingers were entwined was resolute in its hardness, primed for the penetration she needed. He might have grabbed her and fucked her against any surface in the house, over any piece of furniture, but he did not.This guy had restraint—he knew how to savour an erotic moment and allowed himself to be led like a lamb up the gently curving stairwell. It...
CheatingAnother installment of my on going affair with my teenage "fuck buddy" Sarah. For those of you who don't know about Sarah: My other stories will tell you about how we got together, and other stories from our past. Briefly, she was a dream out of reach for me...the next door neighbors daughter... a dream that came true...enough said , onto the next story. It was November 2009, Sarah had gone off to college now, at UNC Asheville, and I had gone on about my life, without her for a while. Until...
It’s late Tuesday morning and I am lying in bed recounting the events of Monday afternoon and I still can’t believe what I had gotten myself into with Kat. All those fantasies I had about her were nothing compared to the real thing. Just then my cell chirped with a text message from Kat. “Just wanted you to know that I’m thinking of you” was all it said. A few seconds later my phone chirped again and to my surprise there was picture of Kat’s sweet pussy all wet with a finger rubbing her clit in...
Group SexI am out for dinner at a Caribbean restaurant in London, with my family. As I take a look at my surroundings. I notice you are in the restaurant and seated 5 tables away from me, with your wife and children. We are given our menus, and as I look up to thank the waiter, we notice each other. We keep a little eye contact over the other tables from across the room, as we sit with our families. An order of drinks to our tables, gives us the opportunity to look directly into each others eyes, and...
Quickie SexWith the kids in school, my wife, Meg, has had more time on her hands during the day. I've started coming home for lunch when I can, and she always greets me with some new culinary delight - yesterday was no exception. I arrived home and and found Meg busy on the deck. She had a large, ripe strawberry in her hand and I watched with intense interest as she brought it to her red lips. After so many years together, I easily recognized the desire in her eyes, and my body responded to the tease...
Love StoriesWith Keri asleep in the passenger seat, I spun through the mental rolodex to remember the landmarks and directions and much to my own amazement I remembered the way to Keri’s house. Our house; and as I pulled up the drive, I looked up to see a naked Sarah waving at me. I turned off the car, which woke up Keri. She yawned and stretched and finally removed her hand from my crotch. Reaching into her purse she pulled out a garage door opener and pressed the button. The garage door slid up...
She would have driven all the way into Philly for the hell of it, but the equivalent of about three tequila shots had made their way into her system, so she parked the Maserati on the outskirts of Furlong and made her way into town. Her mind was awhirl with conjecture. What the hell had just happened?She’d been talking to him, that was all—letting it all out because he was there, hot and vaguely sympathetic. Had she been a fool? Was this somehow going to sink another bite into her English ass?...
CheatingTabitha Chesterfield stood motionless at the granite work-top, staring across the Cranleigh Manor lawn. It rolled half an acre to the treeline and looked magnificent in its lustrous green, or would have, had it not been for the massive pit currently being dug in its centre. The sculpted rockeries would look exquisite around the edges once the transformation was complete—she might even tend the bedding plants herself—but why Grant was insisting on a carp pond she was unsure.Presumably, so he...
CheatingHi..my name is Cat and I am always on the go...rushing here and there and loving the buzz...I live in an apartment block..surrounded by trees and the fresh smell of newly cut grass from the field behind the apartments..There are six apartments ..all single, 50 year old and over 'young' professionals...all with a zing in their step..and a lust for life...but lurking.. each one of us...has a past...It was a beautiful day out..and I decided to go and sit in the park and read my Ernest Hemingway...
Tonight I prepared for what I thought would be just a normal evening on a double date with me boyfriend, his best friend and his date. Little did I know I was walking right into a yummy situation. I dressed in black stockings, garter belt and panties black bra and a slinky black dress. My boyfriend really liked this outfit and I liked wearing it knowing it turned him on. I showed up at the appointed time at my boyfriend’s best friend’s house. They answered the...
Straight SexDelicious DessertHis mates from work were coming round; they did occasionally, just their way of winding down after a hard week; a meal, a few beers and inevitably, a lot of flirting. I liked them all, well all three of them – Nick, Si and Andy; all very different but a great laugh when they were out together.Tonight was no different; I was cooking them a meal and they would arrive around 7:30, probably having already been down the pub for a couple of swift ones! No doubt they would be a little...
I stop by your secretary’s desk and let her know that I’ve brought you some lunch and ask her to hold your calls for the next 2 hours so that I can make sure that you stop and eat a decent lunch for a change. She smiles and says that it’s no problem. I let myself into your office quietly locking it behind me. You haven’t noticed that I’m there yet because you’re on the phone. I take this time to watch you as you take notes knowing that you have no idea what I have planned for you. When you...
After Dinner Dessert I walk in the door after a day of fishing with my buddies. Looking around to see if you are here, when I hear the water running in the kitchen. I walk in and you are standing there in a cute flowery summer dress, as it was a hot day, fixing dinner. You look around and said, “I honey how was fishing,” I said, “It was ok but didn’t catch anything.” Walking up to you I wrap my arms around you and gives you a loving kiss, then asks, “baby when will dinner be ready” you reply...
© Copyright I sat at my desk at home, and was having difficulty with getting this particular web page to set up right. It was for a very demanding and fussy customer. Suddenly remembering that you'd offered to help, should I ever have need of it, I pick up the phone and dial your number that I have taped to the front of my monitor. Soon I hear your husky, yet pleasantly deep voice on the other end. "Hugh? Vicki here. I'm having a dickens of a time with this page for my new, but rather...
Within seconds of that loud scream and long moan dissipating the whole campus burst into one massive round of applause and cheering that seemed to go on for ages. People were standing at doorways and hanging out of windows all over the place as word had spread about this young girl’s performance going on up there on the Matterhorn. It was as if the whole college had come to a momentary standstill to applaud and congratulate Vanessa’s achievement. Even the president of BSC herself was standing...
"Are many of them still waiting?" Nate asked as he removed the small pouch of toiletries from his locker. The communal bathroom at the end of the corridor was shared by around fifty military recruits, all living on the same floor. Those assigned to the bunk right next to it often rushed in first to claim the showers before the others could. "There wasn't anyone when I came out," his bunkmate James replied, scrubbing his hair from across the room. Thank god. It was Nate's cue to head to the...
Gay MaleThe weekend was not what Meredith had hoped for. She thought she would meet Liam at the Rathskeller and have a nice night out. They would have a romantic walk back to campus and she would drive them out to Buxton House. With luck, they would get there after everyone had gone to bed and she would have a chance to slip into the spare room with Liam for a while. Maybe a long while. But then the strikers had pulled her off the street and held her hostage. For a few minutes. Then Liam had burst...
KING WILFRED’S CHAMBERS: Thursday June 4th 6423 King Wilfred awoke to a sensation he had never felt before. Ruler of the Chaste Kingdom of Prudonia, this was a sensation he had certainly never felt before: the sensation of lips sliding on cock. And not just sliding, but also sucking and licking. Somebody was committing one of the most forbidden crimes in the land and on none other than the High King himself! King Wilfred was a confused blend of groggy and outraged. An ultimate act of evil...
We will now relate what was passing in the house of the king's attorney after the departure of Madame Danglars and her daughter, and during the time of the conversation between Maximilian and Valentine, which we have just detailed. M. de Villefort entered his father's room, followed by Madame de Villefort. Both of the visitors, after saluting the old man and speaking to Barrois, a faithful servant, who had been twenty-five years in his service, took their places on either side of the...
Author's Note: In my story, "Freddy in the Bathroom: Virginity Rubbed Away," I already told this entire story from my point-of-view, as one of the two people who actually lived this unique and unexpected event. And in the follow-up story, "Freddy in the Bathroom: My Wife's Confession," my husband has already described for you in great detail his thoughts and reactions to my having confessed to him about what took place between Freddy and me in that small bathroom on that fateful Sunday...
So, there I was, sat at the dining room table, with my wife, her ex-boyfriend, having a meal and chatting about various topics, whilst not fifteen minutes ago, I had watched her suck him off and him cum on her face and in her mouth. What a surreal situation I found myself in, and all because of a positive response, to being asked by my wife, whether I’d enjoy seeing her with her ex.Was I enjoying it though? Well, if I was being totally honest, based on what had just happened, yes, I was.Over...
CuckoldThe TIP: Part 3- Dessert John could hardly wait to get back to the hotel. Bianca held his hand in the cab and leaned against his shoulder. He put his nose into her hair and kissed her lightly on the head. She sighed contentedly. When they got to the lobby the hotel was completely quiet. In the elevator Bianca turned into John’s body and kissed him on the lips. This time the kiss was deeper, was more sexual and John felt tingles. Bianca looked at him demurely and said, “John, I really had a...
DISCLAIMER: This particular series of stories will be one-off adventures. Some long, some short. Some straight, some lesbian, some bi, some sissy, some gay. But hopefully you’ll find them arousing!Sexual FantasiesCreampie DessertJeff was seated on his couch, awaiting the return of his wife Jasmine. The two had recently had a very tough conversation about how Jasmine’s sexual needs weren’t being met. Being a considerate husband, Jeff agreed that she deserved satisfaction. The two agreed to give...
For a long time now, I've loved the idea of eating my wife's pussy right after I cum inside her. I fantasize about it practically every time we have sex, but unfortunately, as soon as I cum I lose interest completely. In fact, after I cum the idea repels me. I've mentioned this fantasy to Pam, and much to my surprise it turned her on at least as much as it does me. She even tried to force the issue, sitting on my face and trying to make me lick her clean. I went into a sort of panic, almost bit...
The TIP: Part 3- Dessert John could hardly wait to get back to the hotel. Bianca held his hand in the cab and leaned against his shoulder. He put his nose into her hair and kissed her lightly on the head. She sighed contentedly. When they got to the lobby the hotel was completely quiet. In the elevator Bianca turned into John’s body and kissed him on the lips. This time the kiss was deeper, was more sexual and John felt tingles. Bianca looked at him demurely and said, “John, I really had a...
Love StoriesDessert ? SFCityDom ? 2006 Dessert ? SFCityDom ? 2006 I dry my hands with a towel. I have finished doing the dinner dishes and cleaning up the kitchen. ?Do you want anything before I sit down?? I ask. ?No, thank you,? she replies. I walk over to the sofa. She is ready for her post-dinner TV watching; she is in shorts and a tank top with her hair in a ponytail. She curls up next to me as I sit down. ?Thanks for doing the dishes.? ?You know the rules, whoever cooks doesn?t have to clean...
We went out for a romantic dinner by candlelight at a small local restaurant. My wife was wearing a rather sheer black dress that wrapped at the top, showing a lot of cleavage, especially since she wasn't wearing a bra. In the right light, her turgid nipples were very visible. We held hands and looked at each other through dinner with lust in our eyes. My dick was half-hard all the way through the meal especially since I was wearing a thick chrome cock ring and no underwear. She had a rather...
Life was perfect. Okay, maybe perfect was a gross exaggeration. I mean, I would have given up a lot, if not most, of what I had to have my parents back. But since that wasn’t going to happen, life was just about as perfect as it was going to get. I had a big, fat bank balance that was going to make my years as a student a lot more comfortable than most other students. I had shares, bonds and trust funds that would give me a head start after university. And I had the best girlfriend that any...
For the past few mornings you have been coming home begging me to ride your cock but I claim to be to tired and roll over. You whisper in my ear to help you stroke your massive meat but I tell you I am not in the mood. You wonder what is going on. It's been several days since I last brought you to an earth shattering orgasm, frustrated you turn over and go to sleep. As you leave to work your night shift I give you a gentle peck on the lips and tell you to have a good night. On the way down you...
EroticTheir special moment was interrupted by a knock at the door. Throwing on the robes they found in the closet, they opened it. Outside, on a tray, was their complementary wine. Also on the tray was a note: Can I join you? – Yoshiki CITY SIN Part Two: Dessert Alejandro read the note, and then looked at Roger for approval. Roger smiled. “Well, that was a good main course… but now we need dessert.” Before Al knew what was happening, Roger had picked up the hotel phone. “Room Service?” he asked....
GayTwo days after, a considerable crowd was assembled, towards ten o'clock in the morning, around the door of M. de Villefort's house, and a long file of mourning-coaches and private carriages extended along the Faubourg Saint-Honore and the Rue de la Pepiniere. Among them was one of a very singular form, which appeared to have come from a distance. It was a kind of covered wagon, painted black, and was one of the first to arrive. Inquiry was made, and it was ascertained that, by a strange...
This tale starts immediately after "Office Mating Ch. 3" where I got reinstated to my Director position by my boss's boss and met Clara's latest visiting niece Rose, a runner with strong legs who had a lesbian incident with her coach and was vehemently against letting me probe her pussy with my prick. I mean, what's with young women these days, anyway? The next morning I awoke with thoughts of Rose, my neighbor Clara's niece, who got some great oral attention but rejected the thought...