The Story of Dan Everett Natalie Dormer 0
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Think of all the ways it might be possible to be incompatible with someone, and my wife and I are the poster children of such a list. Harken! I'm five-six, and she's five-ten—and by the way she loves to wear high heels. Of late she's become a party animal, and I remain the prototypical bookworm. She, also of late, has become a dance aficionado while I'm more the organ-grinder's monkey. She likes TV and I hate the box. She's a beautiful woman, and I'm an average Joe in grave danger of...
100% fiction! It started out as an easy way for them each to make 100 bucks each. It ended up being 4 hours commencing in utter panic... and the start of an exciting new career. In retrospect, the five girls shouldn’t have been lingering downtown on the sidewalk after dark, especially not on Bailey Street East. But they’d decided to celebrate the sexy new designer jeans, top and heels that Peyton’s Mom had just bought her, in her constant war with Peyton’s Dad, who’d left her for a younger...
Group Sex-- MONDAY, MARCH 27, 2006, SPRING BREAK -- "Hey you," Bert greeted me from the other end of the phone line. "Thought I'd check in and see how you were holding up. Staying hydrated? Haven't been worked to exhaustion?" "Very funny. You at Stanford now?" "Yeah, spending Spring Break with Lynne. Only she's not on Spring Break, so I figure I'll be spending a good bit of time on my own. She just left for class." "Ah." "So what's this Sasha tells me about life in your house...
She is wearing a black string bikini. It appears, from the back, that her bum is bare; but, the string is hiding in heaven. Her scent hits me. Charlize is beautiful in her own right, like all the girls; each is distinct and so appealing. She stops and her skirt settles on her hips. She looks into my eyes and flicks her finger for me to follow her to Jayden's bedroom. Following her is a visual delight. Her skirt sways with her hips, at the bed she turns, facing me; she makes a production out...
✧ ✧ ✧ Special thanks to Jim7 for his expertise in editing and proofing. No Bunnies were harmed during this edit!! ✧ ✧ ✧ It had been a long hellish week. Thankfully, today was Friday. Even so, I was three hours late leaving the job site. A stupid boring machine decided to seize, thus making it a very shitty ending for a totally fucked up week. Murphy’s Law had found a seat on my shoulder all week, as breakdown after breakdown challenged my ability and sanity. ✧ ✧ ✧ My name is Ron Wreckler,...
"Uncle Don, mom's in some kind of trouble!" That's how it started. My sister is a piece of work, the comment 'absolutely useless, ' is a high complement if you are referring to her, it goes downhill from there. The only good thing to come from her pitiful life was the result of a one-night stand, is my niece, my lover, my Jayden. My life revolves around her. Jayden is fourteen going on twenty-five. I get tingles in my stomach just thinking of her. What the hell has my sister done...
Finish what you started. Fucking defile me" -from Daniella BoundDaniella's pulse raced. Her discomfort was real, but it was countered by a sense of wild excitement. She could have freed herself by a single sharp tug of her wrists but she did not want to. Not for an instant. Never in her life had she felt like this.She was irked that he had left her so damn long, but then it should hardly have surprised her now she had submitted to his games. So she remained seated on his kitchen chair, naked...
BDSMBack at Lucy’s room, Dan put down the dainty bags of lingerie and girly clothes that she had bought for him. He had been totally and magically transformed into a girl for nearly a whole day now, and every moment was a thrill. He was ultra-conscious of his body - especially his gorgeous 32C boobs, firmly held in the bra that had turned him into a curvy and sexy girl in the first place.Lucy closed her bedroom door. And for the first time in a while, they were definitely alone.“OK, babe, what do...
CrossdressingFor Daniella all was darkness. The sleep mask he had slipped over her eyes encased her in velvet black. Every other sense was heightened. She heard the soft whirr of the fan and the rustle of his clothing, as perhaps he crossed his legs or shifted in his seat. She smelled the honeysuckle through the open window and the sharp tang of cologne whenever he drew close. She felt the prickling of cooling sweat on her exposed skin every time the fanned air brushed her. And she felt the tautness of the...
BDSMOK, Dani, take off my knickers, choose a fresh pair from the drawer, and let’s get you dressed,” said Lucy.Dan sat up in bed. He was wearing a tight-fitting white bra and Lucy’s knickers - the ones he had pulled down Lucy’s legs before he had plunged his throbbing cock into her wet and inviting cunt. The night before. When he had been a boy.Now everything had changed. He had been tricked into putting on a bra that had magically and instantly turned him into a girl.He had been a six-foot shy...
CrossdressingWith far too much time on my hands, my mind starts to wander, thinking of crazy things I could be doing or problems to solve. One of the easiest times for my mind to ramble is after breakfast while I enjoy a good cup of coffee; one of my vises, and I am referring to good coffee. However, the real problem is, after I come up with some stupid, lame brain idea; later at night in bed, my mind has a heyday trying to enhance the stupid idea. This is how it began. After the 'Shootout on Everett...
"Don, I am going to need some funds, the cleaners are nearly done. Need a hundred and thirty thousand cash." I nod and get up off my butt; shit, I ache all over! "Don, I also need another twenty thousand for the metal haulers. They are policing the mountain face for brass and ordnances of any kind. They will remove all of the crap Riggs's men left behind; but, they are not happy about the foam." There are four men, in coveralls, wearing what appear to be gasmasks, walking the face of...
When Skip departs the Chevy, I can hear him swearing at the slight incline. I am out to welcome Peanut, who is smiling knowing that am tweaking Skip, our ongoing task of aggravating each other. "Welcome, Peanut! I was waiting for your travel information, so I would be there to pick you up. How come you brought Grumpy with you? He told me, in no uncertain terms, that he did not wish to see me, or my friendly, happy mountain, in this lifetime. But, here he is, with his usual scowl. Come on...
For the past two weeks, I have been spending time at Leo Haley's office. Now in his new digs, he gives the impression he is granting you an audience rather than an office visit. He now has a permanent secretary plus the two individuals that handle my or, should I say, CBHF Corp. holdings various needs. The financial officer is a young lady, who is very proficient at her job. I found it very difficult to get my mind around the enormous amount of funds generated by the rents from the...
Dan’s life was in turmoil, his wife had left him 4 years ago and today he was made redundant from his job and was now worried for the future and bringing up his daughter Lara. When his wife left he was a loving father and always put Lara first, it wasn’t easy being a single Dad and Lara was growing and was now a teenager and he didn’t know how she would take this setback having only recently come to terms with her mother abandoning her. Dan and Lara had built up a good understanding and despite...
“Honey, come in here!” commanded Jane. Dan made his way into the lounge where Jane and Mark were sat on the sofa drinking wine. Mark had his arm round Jane and she was cuddled into him. “This arrived this morning “ she said handing Dan a box. “Open it!”Dan opened the box and saw the small metal chastity device, it really was quite small. He wasn’t big, but he figured it would still be a snug fit. He looked at his wife and her lover for instruction. It was Mark who spoke, “Get upstairs and shave...
I still have far too much the time on my hands, and my mind still tends to wander, thinking of crazy things I could be doing or problems to solve. What clicked this time was the constant barrage of Christmas Carols, songs and, of course, the gut wrenching advertising and it is only the end of October! During a news broadcast, one of those ads nearly had me tossing my cookies. It had nothing to with Christmas, but it has a lot to do with greed. However, the news piece was about the growing...
Ian's comments gave my mind more fodder. Perhaps some quiet time on Everett Mountain with my bunnies is in order. The slow climb up the incline to the cabin in the Suburban always brings a good feeling. There have been some rocky times on the mountain but the good times and feelings far outweigh the bad. Now in the cabin, with a fresh coffee in hand, my mind goes through the events of the last week. The good news is Ryley is safe! That successful mission was the pinnacle of our success. A...
Special thanks to Jim7-2017 for his expertise in editing and proofing. We won’t mention his shitty bunny recipes which are in very poor taste. Special Thanks to Paul Raab for his idea used in this chapter. Lazeez Jiddan’s name is used with permission! One last read thru by Pete ‘the old fart’ 2017 The following epistle is a direct continuation of Chapter Eleven and when I say direct I mean direct, there is no preamble! You might want to consider re-reading the prior chapters...
Jim finally made it home late Tuesday afternoon. I'd stopped Monday morning at a walk-in clinic to be tested for STDs. I didn't want to use our family doctor, because I was pretty sure if I did, Jim would find out. Thankfully, the results came back negative. I was pretty sure Paul was safe, but I didn't want to take any chance's. The day Jim returned home, my period started. I felt guilty that I'd had sex with Paul, and was now unable to take care of my husbands needs. I decided to make...
Dan and Jane have been married for 10 years. Dan is 46 and it’s fair to say that he is punching. Jane is 32 and if honest she was attracted to Dan because of his money and the life that he could offer her. She was fit when they met and she’s as fit, sexy and attractive now. Jane has shoulder length blonde bobbed hair, is a size 8 with natural, firm 36dd tits. Dan keeps himself in shape for his age, his wealth enables him to eat well, go to the gym often and have a personal trainer, he’s...
Foreword: I thought I'd attempt to write a cheerleader themed story. Although I've seen cheerleading happen at football (soccer) matches, I don't think it's very big in the UK, however I've seen that there are UK-based sites/suppliers, so it is a thing for sure. So, I'm coming at it from a position of relative ignorance, please take that into account if you will. I'm not versed in the cultural significances that it may hold to the US reader, or the realities. My naivety may be a good or...
Dan has only just shut the front door to their house as Jane stepped out of her skirt. She pointed for Dan to kneel and he knew what she wanted before she put her hands on his head and started to grind her soaking pussy into his face. Dan couldn’t believe how wet she was from just a conversation with Mark, he wondered what they had been discussing. Dan eagerly lapped at his wife’s beautiful dripping cunt, it wasn’t long before she had an orgasm. “Go and fix me a G&T and meet me in the...
They pulled into the car park and Mark parked the car in one of the bays. Mark & Jane got out and waited for Dan to join them. They headed off across the car park towards the lift to the shops “Come on Dani, keep up” shouted Mark, there were a few people about and they probably heard “Dani” as “Dan” but it was still embarrassing. They got in the lift and went up to the second floor, where some of the shops were located. Jane spoke as they made their way to the shop. “Honey, now that you are...
Dan knew exactly who to get in contact with. He’d been chatting to a guy online occasionally for a few weeks. His name was Mark, they’d met online and found that Mark was a dominant bbc. They’d chatted about cucking Dan and fucking Jane, but Dan thought it would always remain a fantasy, until now.Dan fired off an email, he checked every few minutes for a reply. One came about 6 hours later. “Cuck, I have to admit that I’m surprised to have received your email, but I’m happy to offer my services...
‘Or something!’ Thought Dan. He paced around in excitement as he heard Jane moving around upstairs getting ready for bed. After a while it went quiet, Dan wondered how long he should wait to make sure that Jane was asleep. He gave it 5 minutes before he could wait any longer. He rushed into the study and fired up the computer. He quickly opened a web browser in private mode and keyed in his favourite search term;cuckold sissy and bbc bullHe quickly pulled his stiffening cock from his pants and...
I watched his plane lift off and disappear into the eastern sky. As I slowly walked across the airport terminal to the parking lot, I tried to compose myself as I wiped the last few tears from my cheeks. I could still feel his lips on my lips and the lingering scent of his shaving soap was still with me, but both sensations were rapidly vanishing. As I climbed into the car, I leaned back one last time saying good-bye to the man I loved. The feeling of the strength of his arms around me in our...
VoyeurIntroduction: Everyone has disappeared, Dan thought he was alone until he met Sharon Dan woke at about 9.30 am, the sun was shining and the air was clear. The boat was rolling gently in a slight swell, he hove anchor and started to make his way to shore. He was hoping Jane his girlfriend was in a better mood than last night, for some reason she had been trying to pick a fight all night, so he grabbed a few beers and a bottle of whiskey got in his boat and went offshore for a couple of mile to...
My husband Dan encouraged me to tell him stories about seducing and then screwing other men. I made up situations where I picked up strangers and let them have their way with me. Dan got really excited and sometimes had an orgasm when I got to the part where this fictional guy put his dick in me. When Dan asked me to spice up the stories to include letting him watch me fuck these fictional guys, I did that for him too. I told him a story where we were at a bar and met a guy that we invited to...
REGIME IMPERIA: COPYRIGHTED 2004THE EVERETTS/ CHAPTER 1?Donald? you asshole, where the fuck are you? Get your ass in here right now?? Seventeen-year-old Mary Everett was getting furious. Was her stepfather being purposely stubborn? Did he actually believe he could get away with such disobedience? Finally, Donald Everett arrived at his stepdaughter’s bedroom. He’d been down the hallway, in his own bathroom, trying to urinate through the tricky restrictive chastity device locked...
“What if Dan isn’t interested?” I asked Ted, my husband.“Oh, he’s interested," Ted assured me. “I’ve seen him checking you out for years.”Dan had just completed the first year of a two-year assignment in Kodiak, Alaska. Retired form the Air Force, his Colonel quickly snatched him back as a contractor working on some sort of top-secret tracking station on a remote base in Alaska. Dan and Ted have been friends since they were kids, and we’d offered Dan our guest room for the week he’d be in town...
Wife LoversI live in Northern California now, but a few years ago I was livingin L.A., land of movie stars, traffic insanity and loads of awesomelycute young dudes, in a small house in West L.A. proper. At that timeI considered myself bisexual, but hadn't had nearly as much sex as Iwanted (with either gender). It wasn't that I was bad-looking. Infact, I was flirted with by both genders nearly every day. I waswell-tanned, and worked out enough. Green eyes, buzzed dark brownhair. I was kind of on the...
Angka menunjukkan angka 3 dan pintu lift pun terbuka. Gina keluar dari lift bersama dengan beberapa orang lainnya. Gadis cantik itu langsung bergegas menuju ke kamar yang disebutkan oleh Om Herdi ditelepon tadi. Sesampai di depan pintu kamar bertuliskan nomor 257, Gina mengetuk pintu tersebut beberapa kali namun sama sekali tidak ada jawaban. Begitu ketukan terakhirnya juga tidak mendapat respon, ia mencoba membuka pintu kamar tersebut. Rupanya pintu tersebut tidak terkunci dan gadis cantik itu...
Anissa sedang menikmati lantunan lagu jazz lembut yang mengalun di radio ketika terdengar ketukan pelan di jendela mobilnya. Wajah Pak Bejo yang tiba-tiba muncul mengagetkan dara itu. Anis memencet tombol membuka jendela.“Ada apa, Pak?” tanya Anissa.“A-anu, non… sepertinya saya kehilangan kunci mobil sewaktu buang air kecil tadi.”“Aduuuh… Pak Bejo ini gimana sih?” nada suara Anissa meninggi karena jengkel, tapi gadis itu segera memperbaiki nada suaranya agar Pak Bejo tidak marah. Mereka hanya...
Introduction: Dan introduces Liz to the pleasures of sex with strangers and her life will neve be the same. Once Dan and Liz returned from their honeymoon, they settled into the life of newlyweds in the 60s. Liz kept the Apartment in order while Dan worked at a local tractor factory. Liz would always have dinner ready for Dan at 6p.m., and then they would have desert afterwards, with Liz being the desert. Their daily lives didnt change much over the first 8 months of their marriage, but Dan was...
Since Dan unlocked the sexual monster inside of her, Liz couldn’t get enough of Dan’s long thick cock inside her, and always wanted to have sex. Dan felt the same way about Liz. He would fuck her at least twice a day and sent gallons of cum down her throat, in her ass, and into her tight velvety pussy. It didn’t take Dan long to get Liz pregnant with all the seed he was depositing into her womb. When Liz found out she was pregnant, it turned her sexual lust to an even higher level. It...
Pak Bejo mengelus seluruh tubuh Alya tanpa ada perlawanan berarti. Seluruh perasaan dan keinginan Alya untuk melawan hilang ditelan oleh kenikmatan orgasme yang baru saja dirasakannya. Pak Bejo mengecup pantat Alya yang bulat, mulus dan kencang. Beberapa kecupan meninggalkan bekas cupang memerah di pantat Alya. Pak Bejo merenggangkan kedua sisi pantat itu dan mulai menjilat lubang kecil yang berada di tengah, tepat di atas bibir vagina Alya yang masih meneteskan air mani. Lubang anus Alya...
DRASBERG FILES: KATHY AND DAN(A) by J R D Dan and Kathy waited in the doctor's office, terrified. Kathy was a research assistant who had recently been hired by the Drasberg corporation. Dan was a stay at home husband. He wanted to be a stay at home dad, but so far Kathy and he had failed to conceive a child. Mostly that was because of their sex life, but, hey, they had fun with it, and that was what counted. Then Kathy got a job at Drasberg's, a dream job, they thought. ...
Early Saturday morning Dan phoned Casey and gave him the assignment to inspect the apartment buildings he was considering purchasing. He relayed to Casey what the ladies he had talked to had said about the buildings. Dan told Casey this would be a big investment so he needed Casey to be extremely thorough in doing his inspection. Casey said he understood and would do his best. Emily was ready to go with Dan when he arrived at ten. The tan shorts and white blouse highlighted her enticing...
“Tolong kasihani aku, tinggalkan aku sendirian…” bisik Anissa lemah, “tolong…”“Rasanya Mas Dodit pasti akan sangat berterima kasih seandainya kita berdua memberinya hadiah yang terindah yang akan selalu ia ingat sepanjang hidup.” Tangan Pak Bejo turun dari dada Anis ke perutnya, tangan itu menepuk pelan perut langsing Anis, “Hadiah terindah berupa seorang anak dari kekasihnya tercinta yang didapatkan dari sperma seorang pria tua buruk rupa.”Anissa menutup mulutnya karena kaget dan takut, dia...
Pulling into the parking lot at the funeral parlor Dan could not help but notice the large amount of automobiles that were there. Fred was a successful and popular business man which Dan thought accounted for the large turnout at his wake. Walking into the funeral parlor Dan signed the book and waited in line to express his condolences. He could see standing by the open casket was Fred’s wife Marilyn who Dan had met a few times. Standing next to her he assumed were her three daughters. Dan...
The following morning Penny Fey said to Dan and Trish. ‘Let’s not wait any longer to start breakfast as it’s gone half-seven. It’s the first time our visitor has been out with Kip and he’s probably led her on a merry chase after rabbits.’ Ten minutes later they heard the thunder of hooves and Penny stood and gasped, ‘It’s Rosina on that brute Teddy. Christ no horse should be ridden that hard, who stupidly gave her Teddy?’ ‘I suppose I did mum,’ Dan said as he stood beside his mother and...
Alya berdiri di tengah pos kamling sambil memeluk dirinya sendiri yang kedinginan terkena udara malam. Tubuh Alya masih terus bergetar, bukan dikarenakan oleh dinginnya semilir angin tapi karena perasaannya yang campur aduk.“Uhhhhhmmm.” Desah Alya lirih saat tubuh hangat Pak Bejo memeluknya dari belakang. Pria tambun itu tidak perlu berbasa-basi dan ingin langsung menyantap hidangan utama yang lezat yang disuguhkan oleh ibu rumah tangga yang masih muda dan sangat cantik ini. Tangan Pak Bejo...
Sure enough next morning Dan appeared. “Ready sleepy head” she hollered. Quick as a flash I was on my bike and racing after her. We raced all the way there, both panting, out of breath as we discarded our bikes and resumed our spot, from yesterday. I couldn’t help but notice Dan’s chest rising and falling as she caught her breath. Dan noticed me staring, perhaps it was the drool seeping out the corner of my mouth that gave it away. “There only boobs you know, haven’t you seen a girls boobs...
Della Delaney called Penny Fay and she sounded really on edge. ‘Penny are you aware of the rumor?’ ‘What rumor?’ ‘That as a result of Kip’s dramatic rescue by Dan and that young woman from the South Island staying with you, half of the island thinks Dan is about to propose to her.’ ‘Half of the island permanents think that, are you sure?’ ‘Well a quarter of the population then. The girls came home raving about her after meeting her and I suspected this would happen, with her sitting right...
The story is true the names have been changed to protect every one involved. I welcome all comments good and bad as they will make my future stories more enjoyable. I had been visiting several adult dating sites when i was notified that there was a person interested in my profile. Now i am not a fan of on line dating but thought what the heck i had nothing to lose and maybe gain a friend in the process. Dan was the man that was interested in my profile he was three years older than me but age...
Oh, God, he's taking it out again! I shifted to get a better look as my older brother Dan began peeling out of his speedo and releasing his big, fat cock. Damn, I sure wish it were my hands in stead of his sliding up and down that cock. But that would be incest and wrong, but I don't see why. I was spying on my brother again. My voyeurism started when I was eight years old and I accidentally got a good look at my ten year old brother's "thing," as I called it then, when he crossed from...
At Banzai Bob's, once they arrived, Ayumi led Dan straight to her uncle's office, to speak to him before they got their orders set up. The other patrons looked at them with confusion, but didn't do a thing about it, as Ayumi and Dan hadn't been asked to leave or anything by the somewhat surprised staff. There sat Giichi Okazaki, better known as "Banzai Bob," a man of about average height for one of Japanese ancestry, who had a little around the middle, but was otherwise still doing good...
The offer made on the apartment building was contingent on many things, one being a favorable property inspection. Dan had phoned Casey Bergoles, a property inspector Dan had used before and gave him the assignment to inspect the building. Casey had done quality proper inspections for Dan in the past on buildings Dan had purchased and there was no reason to think the quality of his work would be any different on this assignment. After having breakfast and checking his calendar, Dan waited...
Daniel an 18 year old London teenager was just about to leave his home address, when his mother Karen entered through the door. Dan was surprised to see his mum had a young asian guy with her. Karen was 49 years old and had an eldest daughter around 21 years old aswell as Dan. Karen was around 5 foot 4 curvy build and shirt blonde hair and had been married for over 20 years. Karen had introduced this unknown guy to Dan as Chris. Karen had stated that Chris was here to help her with computer as...
The purchasing of this new property was proceeding without problems and would be concluded in two weeks. Dan would be using the Declarations and the condo offering letters that he had done on the prior property as guides in preparing those documents for this soon to be acquired property. Sue had been managing this property for the previous owner and was providing Dan with the information on the present renters. This time she said she would include the information on how long it was till the...
Dan Fey was correct in his suspicion that his mother was up to something. During lunch when Rosina went to the toilet, Penny said to Jolene, ‘Perhaps you suspect that Rosina and my son have become more than friends?’ ‘Yes she indicated that, well more than indicated, during our drive here from the ferry wharf.’ ‘And?’ ‘Relax dear, I confess I’m delighted about that. Dan appeared to be an admirable young man.’ ‘Um as the saying goes, I guess he’s been around the block a few times.’ ‘And...
I’ve had to break it into chapters so I hope you don’t get bored. Chapter one My Best mate Dan. All my life I had known Dan. We were born one month apart, lived on opposite sides of the same road, our parents were close friends and inevitably we did everything together. We learned to talk together, learnt to walk together, went to the same pre-school, primary school, ate out together and spent all our spare time in each other’s company. Spoke about our dreams and our fears, family...
Dan made the suggested changes his attorney suggested to the condo conversion letter and mailed out the letters to the renters in his building. He was hoping to get a positive response from the majority of the renters on wanting to purchase their units. The twenty percent down could be an impediment to their committing to buy but he was hoping that it wasn’t and that the renters could see the benefits of becoming condo owners. He placed a phone call to the air conditioning repair people and...
I was sitting at the kitchen table sipping my third cup of coffee and looking out the window at the backyard. The grass was ankle high, weeds were taking over the flowerbeds and the roses were in bad need of pruning. That was all stuff that Dan was supposed to take care of. The front door squeaked when you opened it, the showerhead in the upstairs bedroom leaked, my car needed the brakes relined and it was due for an oil change; more stuff that Dan usually took care of. There were a hundred...
Dan and Vicki had only been married for 4 and a half years when they attended what would turn out to the most significant office party they ever experienced. This was before Dan made his fortune, and both of them were rich enough to retire young. He was already prospering, but the millions had not quite rolled in. Vicki was working at a medical office, where she did mostly boring, clerical work, when one of her co-workers caught her eye. His name was Larry, and he seemed to return the interest....
FetishBy the time summer break arrived, Becca has gotten quite comfortable going out with Andrea, or by herself. She had become a regular at a few of the bars that catered to the LGBQT community and had become friends with several of the “gurls” as they liked to call themselves. She had also found and become friends with several of the female regulars, one of whom she was really starting to like quite a bit. Tina was helping her a lot with her makeup and styling tips as well. She also ran into Candi...
TransThe week or so passed relatively without incident. Meaning that Debbie and Dan returned to work and got back to their normal routine. Except that Debbie continued to dress more provocatively (for her) including very daring, even scandalous, underwear, when she wore any at all, and that Debbie and Dan had sex far more often than previously, like nearly every day. And when they fucked, the house rocked. Every orifice Debbie had was used often and well. Oh, and one night Debbie (really Zach, but...