Nandita To Nandini
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POV Sandra"So, tell me what you think? You'd love to be a grandma, wouldn't you?" she asked, as we walked down the hallway. "Yes, London, but are we ready for that now?" "Maybe, maybe not, but we just have to get them on board, with getting with another woman first, remember? They didn't even want to ask out Keisha and Gia, even though we encouraged them to do it," she mentioned it before we made it to the door, and she took my hands in hers. "Let's hang out with our sons, fuck the...
IncestI slid the report into the proper file just as he walked into the room. Dennis Butz stood there wearing his three-piece suit, looking as handsome and charming as any man could. But I was not to be tamed by his charm. "Hello, Linda," he said with a friendly grin. "Judge Herns isn't in today," I replied back in a frosty tone. "I'm not here to see her." "My plane leaves in less then an hour Dennis, what do you want?" I slammed the file drawer shut and walked past him to my desk...
This is a work of fiction. Any resemblance to persons or incidents is coincidental. My adventure began while I was a senior in high school. My mother took me to the dentist. It was late afternoon and shortly after I was called into the examination room the receptionist and assistant went home. The dentist then closed the door of the room we were in. He walked over to me and started making small talk... I guess to make me feel at ease. We talked about many things. He told me I was cute and that...
CrossdressingForced Femme CrossdressingForced Femme Crossdressing had never crossed my mind. Certainly not that day. I had been lounging in my PJs one evening early last December. My fiancé Melissa was working 2nd shift rotation. When her best friend Dawn showed up at our front door. She invited herself in when I opened it. When Dawn and I are alone, she always teases me about my bisexual tendencies. It was my own fault for letting them slip one night when I had way too much to drink. Which Melissa had...
Caught Crossdressing by Aunt Sharon Story by Kresha Matay "I wonder where Brad is? He knows you're coming, you'd think he'd stick around. Oh, I hope he'll turn up soon, otherwise you'll have to drive back in the dark." "Rita, don't worry about the boy so much. Brad is like every other sixteen year old boy. He's probably driving around with his friends looking for girls and forgot I was coming!" "Well, aah, I don't think so!" His mother stumbled to say. "That's something you and I...
My Qualifications to Write About Crossdressing By Ricky How ironic! While looking for something in my files the other day I found I have been writing about crossdressing more than 10 years now. The problem is, I now realize I am completely unqualified to be a crossdresser, let alone a writer on the subject. Think about it, just what are the qualifications for a crossdresser? Surely you've read a multitude of "true life stories" in the crossdressing magazines. Perhaps if we...
I had an affinity towards women’s clothes and have a lot of crossdressing fantasies. The soft silks, shimmery fabrics and bold colours – I loved them all. But I was a boy and all my friends would laugh if ever a boy wore a pink shirt. And I loved hose colours. I wanted to raid my mom’s closet, wear her dresses, put on makeup and strut like the diva that I was. But I held this in me for many years, until one night I saw my parents. They had dressed up in costumes I believe. My mom was a...
Cross DresserThe moment I typed ‘mom, the search engine immediately displayed ‘mom and son’. I found my index finger click on the mouse. It was as if a dam broke open and my jaw dropped to find out that there was so much of it. I filtered for videos and still, the search results seemed endless. After scrolling for around twenty minutes one video appealed to me as the lady in it looked similar to Vineeta – not Indian – but quite similar – some Latina pornstar. I watched the video for two minutes. However, it...
IncestThis story continues on directly from my first story, Sonya’s Siren Song. In the morning, I opened my eyes, and there was Sonya, in the bed beside me, still fast asleep. I realised that whatever happened last night had really happened, and there was no going back. I wasn’t sure what would happen when she awoke, but just in case, I quietly slipped out of the side of my bed, and put my pyjama pants back on.I looked down at the still-sleeping Sonya, lying with her back to me, and I remembered that...
TabooJoy clenched his jaws as he answered his father, “Dad, it is too good to describe. Mom’s mouth is out of this world, dad, almost unbearable. Oh, mom, I think your mouth is going to make me cum soon.” Suvendu gestured me to stop my head movements as he wanted to see his son cumming. “Hold it, Soni, don’t make him cum so soon. Son, take a break. I’ve special plans for your first ejaculation with a real woman. Let your cock get some fresh air while you watch your mother suck mine.” I moved my...
Incest100% fiction! My brother & i boarded the train bound for grandma's. During the 3 hour journey we had plenty of time to talk about the good old days when we would get into trouble chasing her chickens & how she would bake for us. She was very lonley these days & had asked for us to pay her a visit. After getting off the train we made the short walk to her house. Grandma was delighted to see us & as usual had baked plenty for us. She was very elegantly dressed in blue satin blouse,black skirt &...
IncestI went to the restroom to redo my hair and reapply my favorite cherry red lipstick. With all that friction of my son’s cock against my lips, the previous coat was wiped out. I was pleased to notice the glow on my face. No wonder, as Vineeta had mentioned, a young man’s cum does wonders for a woman. The intake of warm young cum in your digestive system generates a lustrous glow within a week. In one day, I had swallowed two huge loads. What a cum slut I had become. As Joy drove the car back...
IncestThat night I tossed and turned in the bed and tried hard to sleep but just couldn’t. images of Vini with her son and Joy fantasizing about me kept on bombarding my brain. And more than anything the words of Vini, “Sonali you should fuck your son,” kept me hitting like a torpedo. In the morning I hit the gym with a vengeance and sweated it out hard in an effort to get all that had happened out of my mind. It was nothing but a bad dream, I kept on telling myself and succeeded to an extent. I was...
IncestPOV Sandra We all went into the bedroom, shut the door, and I yanked Pete right to me. "How do you feel about having two wives?" I giggled, before a gap where I wrapped my arms around his neck. "I'm sorry, I'm trying to lighten the mood. Are you okay, son?" "Yes, Mom, but it’s kind of been that way for a while now. You're not a mistress. Gia knows all about you, and she does it with you too." "Fair enough, but I want you to always treat her as your number one, Pete. You and I have had...
IncestTHE CASE OF RANDOLPH MASON (c) 2014, 2017 by Anthony Durrant I went into the room of Special Prosecutor Randolph Mason and found him gasping for breath, his eyes wide from shock, and his mouth wide open. I couldn't see his skin under his bandaged face, but I'd bet anything that it was as pale as a piece of tissue paper. I ran to get Dr. Merton, the plastic surgeon who'd operated on the Special Prosecutor, and the two of us returned to Mason's room. By that time,...
Joy put two pillows beneath my stomach so that my ass protruded up for his unhindered vision. I squirmed a bit as I felt a generous amount of almond oil drop in my asshole. It was followed by a gentle push of finger which started massaging my anal passage expertly. I could not believe that within a few minutes my son’s oiled finger was moving in and out of the passage effortlessly. Then he inserted the second finger and I felt a pressure in the rectal muscles. However, due to another dollop of...
Incesthey again - franny the tranny here looking to share more wanton acts of pantyhose lust with my new foundling - a fetish friend who fufilled my oral desire with gobs of cum all over my face - he had really touched my slut side as i savored his sperm but this satsifaction was short lived as i craved morei am such a pantyhose whore constantly dressing and reaching out to other pantyhose preverts on line - i enjoy making crossdress / encasement vids for posting - a regular addict to exploring my...
In the morning, I opened my eyes, and there was Sonya, in the bed beside me, still fast asleep. I realised that whatever happened last night had really happened, and there was no going back. I wasn’t sure what would happen when she awoke, but just in case, I quietly slipped out of the side of my bed, and put my pyjama pants back on. I looked down at the still-sleeping Sonya, lying with her back to me, and I remembered that under the covers, she probably still had her silk nightdress...
Hii, mere naam ankit hai. Main mumbai ka rahnewala hoo. Yeh kahani meri or meri mami ki hai jab hum sath me crossdressing kiya karte hai. Meri mami ma naam sabita hai. Unki lambai 5ft or woh thodi moti type ki hai. Unka koi baby nhi. Lekin fashion ke mamlo me save age rahti hai. Jab mai 10std me padta tha tab meri mami or mama culcutta se mumbai aaye. Yaha aane ki unki ek hee wajah thi paisa. Mujhe pahle se hee porn video dekhna achcha lagta tha. Mujhe femdom, bdsm, bondage jaisi porn bahut...
SOME NOTES ON THE DESIGN OF CROSSDRESSING HARDWARE There are several difficulties to be overcome in the design of self-crossdressing hardware. This paper will enumerate them and offer suggestions to remediate the problems. 1) Determining the sex of the hardware. Actually, determining the sex of the hardware is not a formidable task. The primary problem occurs because design engineers have no discernible knowledge of sex. After all, anyone who spends their day in front of a...
Humorfrannie again and i am still lusting with wishful fantasy - i love dressing but i really crave sucking cock while wearing my womens clothing - mmmm mmmm - munching on masculine meat is a treat i always think about when i am heeled in my wig so when i heard from my reluctant friend from up north, i got real excited thinking about going down on his meaty manhood in pantyhose - third time a charm maybe ? his previous two visits were on a friday but this time he suggested a monday - ahh the window...
Randi's Vacation Randi woke up to his alarm and quickly silenced it. A quick glance to his left confirmed the Denise was already up. She almost always got up before him preferring some extra time between getting ready for work and needing to walk out the door. He preferred to have enough time to get ready, eat and go. He walked to the bathroom which was right in the master bedroom. The condo they bought was a bit extravagant but provided plenty of room and they could afford it on...
Hum dono abhi bhi nange hi thay. Chalte chalte usne paad maari. Uski gaand mein abhi bhi haddi akti hui thi. Nadi kinare, jhadiyon ke bich usko bithaya. “Hug le saali madarchod. Kab se paad rahi jai bhosdiki.” Woh hugne lagi. Uski gaand se haddi nikal gayi. Uski garam moot ki dhaar mere pairo pe giri. “Saali maderjaat! Mere pairon pe mootegi. Saali raand muh khol,” main uske muh mein mootne laga. Lavda uske gale mein ghus kar mootne laga. Maine apni tange faila di aur wahi khade khade hugne...
Rick looked at me with desire in his eyes and moaned, “Mom your lips are so juicy and hot.” And in a swift move put his lips on mine and started feeding on them. Such was the intensity that a short gasp emitted from my mouth. But got submerged in his soft groans of pleasure. I also found myself gorging on his mouth. Within a few seconds lost total control immersing ourselves in the most passionate kiss of our lives. I felt his penis growing hard and long and banter upon my thigh. It must have...
IncestSandra's FantasyBy Tappy McWidestance and SandraSynopsys: This story comes from a reader's fantasy about how a woman's secret desire to be dominated by a younger girl leads her on a submissive adventure.Editor's Note: This story is written from multiple points of view. I will list at the start of each section which character's POV is being used. As you might expect, we will start with Sandra, a 40-somthing divorced executive whose fantasy is the basis for this story. I would also like to...
He iss readers, I am back after long time. Here I will tell u how I seduce my uncles sexy maid, sonali. I am from kolkata and I will tell the story in bengali. If anyone want to know, may write to me Sonali, bachor ponero solo er halka gom ronger meyetar sorir chilo khub akorsoniyo. Amar kakimar bari kaaj korto. Sbsamoy bra panty er sathe porto ekta paatla naity. Naity er arale or panty er rong majhe majhe bojha jeto, ar besirbhag samoyei or bra er fite beriye thakto. Ami takhon college e...
Up until this point in time my crossdressing has consisted of wearing stockings or pantyhose and enjoying some anal penetration with one of my toys. I have recently had strong desires to move further but really didn’t know anyone that could help me. I was chatting recently with one of my friends on Lush about our mutual desires and needs. I had said that I really would like to do the whole deal at least one time to see if I’m really as into it as I thought I was. I also mentioned that it wasn’t...
CrossdressingMera naam Rudra hai. Ek number ka harami aur besharam. Mera dimaag mere lavde mein hai, jo saala har waqt chudai ke liye uchalte rehta hai. Kasarati badan jo ghanto tak lavde ka saath deta hai. Waise toh bachpan se hi kaafi chudai ki hai. Lekin yeh wali sabse achi wali, ya yeh kahu ki sab se gandi wali hai. Main tab 30 saal ka tha. Shaadi hui nahi thi. Ghar mein rehta hi nahi tha. Naukri hi aisi thi ke sheher-sheher gaon-gaon bhatakna padta tha. Peshe se ek civil engineer, jiski degree paiso se...
Joy emerged from his room with an envelope in hand and entered my bedroom and came out with a smile of relief on his visage. “Ma, it was a great relief to write all my feeling for that unique lady. Read it with patience and tell me what you feel. You might get angry but all I have been is bluntly honest. Whatever will be your next step, I’ll accept it gladly.” “Why do you think I might get angry?” “Well, it’s not the matter mother and son usually talk about.” “I told you, dear, I won’t get...
IncestPOV: Sandra"The library?" I asked, walking out the door. "How kinky, Pete? I just hope you're studying and not using your time to think about your hot mom," I muttered before a pause as I kept walking. "Oh, who am I kidding? I always want my handsome son thinking of me. I'm good whether we're just cuddling on the couch watching TV or you're fucking me from behind. There's nothing wrong with it when the sex is consequential. Holy shit," I moaned, prior to stopping, leaning against the...
IncestTHE LATE CROSSDRESSING HUSBAND by enduringshades Edith and I had known each other since we were teenagers. We went shopping together and often met for lunch or coffee. Friday night used to be our Girls Night Out when we dressed to the nines and headed for our favourite bar. Then we got married (not to each other!) and stopped going out together. Edith was still a party girl, but I stayed at home with my wife, Betty. I never told Betty that I was a crossdresser. I missed being...
This is part one of a story, from a former user. I’d like to read the continuation, or anything else written by them. I enjoy the stories as much as the pics and videos, they all get to the right part of me. Any help would be great. First Time Crossdressing with a mate part 1 This is a work of fiction, though someday I hope to make it a reality. —– It was the height of summer, and my girlfriend was out of town for 2 weeks. I’d had a handful of experiences with guys before, but ever since I...
This is part one of a story, from a former user. I'd like to read the continuation, or anything else written by them. I enjoy the stories as much as the pics and videos, they all get to the right part of me. Any help would be great.First Time Crossdressing with a mate part 1 This is a work of fiction, though someday I hope to make it a reality. ----- It was the height of summer, and my girlfriend was out of town for 2 weeks. I'd had a handful of experiences with guys before, but ever since I...
Andrea Standing (part 2 of Andrea's Stand) A note at the beginning. One of the problems with writing a serial story is that the author feels a need to recap what happened in the prior portions. Please go back and read part 1, "Andrew Running". It will make this a better story. Briefly Andrew at 19, abused by his father, runs away to a distant relative, Aunt Clara. Andrew goes along with a joke played by Clara's lover Marnie, and ends up as Andrea working in Marnie's luxury used car...
Hi everyone, I am Nikhil and this is my first story in Indian Sex Stories , I hope you all will like it. Please don’t forget to comment if you like the story or you can mail me at Ajj main apko apko 2 hafte pehele ki ek ghatna batane jaa raha hu, jisne meri life ke, maje lene ke tarike hi badal diye. Is story me main apko bataunga ki kaise mujhe pata chala ki meri Sali ek randi hai aur kaise maine use hotel main choda. Toh story start karte hai… Main ek IT-Professional hun, aur aksar mujhe...
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Friday night crossdressing. Doing a favor for a gay neighbor gets me more exposure when a friend finds out I like crossdressing. Continued… Gail walks up to Candice, leans over and they start making out. Before I knew it everyone had a partner and they were all making out except Mark and I. As I said before, Mark and I have known eachother since grade four. I heard he made a pass to another guy once but I thought it was just a rumor. I've always liked crossdressing but didn't consider...
Confessions of a Crossdresser I am a crossdresser. It is an addiction. I’ve tried, but I really can’t stop myself: fantasies, endless looking at pornography, shopping, dressing, masturbation, and inevitably, seeking men to please. I started out as a young teen as a panty fantasizer and have progressed to where I am today. I think that I am pretty “normal”: dating girls, and now a responsible man, married with a f****y. But, I have evolved to a cock sucking crossdresser. I’m writing to try to...
There was a 70 year old grandma that moved in right next to my apartment, I was 18 at the time and my grandpa was 74. I lived with my grandpa at the time. The old grandma would come to talk to my grandpa each day, she would keep teasing him, she would flirt with him, she tried to seduce him. My grandpa ignored her at first but then he started flirting with her after a couple days. I once came out of my apartment only to see her sucking his dick outside on the porch while he was touching her...
In the previous story Brandi finds out that her son, she had put up for adoption, sixteen years prior, was at her home. We were on our way to California. I was very lucky to get a flight out of Tanzania, that morning at ten. I estimated, it was going to take twenty-three hours to get to our home in California. We had plenty of time for Brandi to explain what had happened. I had booked a first class flight, there were only two seats on each side of the isle, and we were the only two in the...
I had come home early from work and found my son, Jamie, sitting at my vanity, putting on make-up. He was wearing one of my cocktail dresses -- and my stockings, my high heeled sandals and, it appeared, my lingerie. He hadn't heard me come in, so I just stood silently in the doorway watching him put on mascara, blush and lipstick. He was completely mesmerized by his own ladylike reflection, completely entranced by the girl in the mirror. He did a very good job with his make-up; clearly he...
The Commander still stared at the torn off rank insignia of the former Midshipman as his Desk, Then hisCom flashed with the top urgent icon. He touched the screen and a Holo transmission from Fleet headquarters solidified. It was the Old man himself, Admiral of the Fleet McElligott. “Where is Midshipman Olafson?” “Sir, the Ex Midshipman is just transferred to the brig. That subject has been dealt with swift and harsh. I doubt he is conscious. Thirty five lashes and off to Brisbane...
He watched them as they sat sipping their colorful drinks and flirting with male guests and hotel employees alike at the Garden Cloud Lounge. They were undoubtedly four sisters, all in their late twenties and thirties, and attractive. They were obviously American, and they laughed as they tried what little Spanish they knew on the young waiters. He had seen groups like this many times. Their often affluent husbands allowed them to have "Girl's Time Off" now and then. It worked out on both...
Andrea On Her Own (Part 3 of Andrea's Stand) A Note Before: If you have not read parts 1 and 2, please go back and do so. I have spent some time trying to develop the characters involved and a brief description of the plot so far will not help you much. Chapter 1: Needing More I leaned back in my chair and stretched. It had been a long hour and a half finishing the homework from my calc. class. As I stretched I felt the sweater pressing against the breast forms and glanced...
My wife is out of town, giving me a great opportunity to fulfill my fantasy of being an all out cum slut in front of a crowd. I go all out dressing up as a sexy slut for party that I am about to attend. I have had my nails done at a salon and my body is freshly shaven. I have a hard time keeping my cock in my sexy silk panties as I put on my black thigh-highs and short black skirt. Eventually I get all dressed up and then walk out to my car in my slutty outfit without caring if any of my...
Hello friends yeh ISS per meri phli story h . Yeh story mere or meri pados ke didi ke bich ki h jiska nam soni h. Mera nam ren h or m ek good looking bnda hu or meri height 6’1″ h or mere lund ka size 6’5″ lamba or 2’3″ mota h . M haryana ka rhne vala hu or soni joki ek sexy londiya h or uski umar 18 sal h , jiska figure 34-28-36 h . M 20 sal ka ladka hu . Agar koi bhi bhabhi ya aunty mujse chuwana chahti h to please contact me @ Ab aapka time na lete hue m sidha story per aata hu . Soni ki...
This introduction story is based on true events. All the characters mentioned are above the age of 18. For personal reasons, the names of the characters have been changed. Any resemblance to any person, living or dead, is purely coincidental. The writer does not believe in any kind of discrimination or disrespect towards women. The story has been written for sexual satisfaction and should be held in the same regard. “Aah!” Nandini moaned as my thick member entered her...
IncestThis introduction story is based on true events. All the characters mentioned are above the age of 18. For personal reasons, the names of the characters have been changed. Any resemblance to any person, living or dead, is purely coincidental. The writer does not believe in any kind of discrimination or disrespect towards women. The story has been written for sexual satisfaction and should be held in the same regard. “Aah!” Nandini moaned as my thick member entered her...
IncestAs Bart loaded his bag, in the car, he couldn’t help but complain again. He didn’t want to be up so early, didn’t want to go camping and certainly didn’t want to go there alone with his father for a whole day and night. He couldn’t blame Homer however. It wasn’t his idea after all, it was his mom’s. “Please Bart, do it for me,” she had said with her pleading eyes, the ones which no son could resist but agree to. Homer had complained as well and Marge had dealt with him...
The living room was a total mess, Mandy Allwood gazed around the room with a look of disgust. She'd just got in from work, after a hard day at the hospital where she worked as a nurse. She didn't want to come home and find her house like this. There were magazines strewn across the sofa and over the coffee table, videos cases left on the floor by the television and cups and plates scattered in various places around the room. Only one person could be responsible for this Mandy thought, her...
This story was written for my wife Sonya. Story Codes: (F/M, fist, forced)Sonya's forced Fantasy (aka Sonya's Story) (c) 2010 by DireWolfSonya was a hot twenty-something brunette at 5'5, 108 pounds with wide flaring hips, a curvy ass and perky B cup breasts. She had a great smile as well that lit up any room she was in. She did not have many relationships, preferring the long lasting ones instead of one-night stands.One day, Sonya's computer broke down and she called the local repair...
Vineeta took a large sip of the champagne and started her narrative. Vineeta’s Story It was morning when I bathed my son and gave him a handjob. Now as I was preparing his favorite chicken biryani. I started replaying the whole scene in my mind. The only thing that was recurrently playing was his hard, erect penis and the thick ropes of sperm that hit the bathroom wall. Any trace of guilt had evaporated from my mind and I was feeling horny. But I decided I won’t make any first move and let...
IncestSant Ghoshal-Anand Goswami ‘pahunche huye’ siddh purush ya mahatma hn.Sundar Van ke ghane jungle me Aadiwasi basti se sata unka ‘Slddhashram’ h.swami ji vese to Raam Bhakti ki rasik shakha Sakhi Sampraday ke bhakt hn lekin vo Shiv Bhagvan ke nagn rup ke upasak bhi hn.Isi liye unke Ashram me ghuste hi ek sundar Shiva Ling sthaapit milta h. kaha jata h ki yeh ”Swaymbhu Lingam” h, arthat iska nirman kisi kaarigar ne nahin kiya, ye to uska apne aap bana prakritik rup h.ye nitya ling h. Swami ji ke...
Many of the crossdressing life stories I've read on Lush have similar beginnings. The early adolescence, the mother's or sister's clothes, the masturbation! It's fifty years since my first urge to dress in feminine garments, and ever since then, it has been an integral part of my colourful life.I remember the day fairly vividly. I was settling down in our bathroom, to do what EVERY adolescent does at that age. Wank! My inspiration back in those days were my mum's pals, her sister, and a couple...
CrossdressingI have been a crossdressing Mistress for several years now. I have a petite body and always looked good in a dress. I take on many slaves but my favorites are other men who look great in dress. This is a story about my favorite slave I have ever trained.I had been anticipating the arrival of my new toy all week, and he was moments away. My new slave, eager to be trained under my heels. The first time I saw him I had brief fantasies of my hands and mouth exploring every inch of his petite and...
CrossdressingI went through a period in the '80s and '90s when I was very much into crossdressing and being a bottom. I didn't write these events down at the time, but I wish I had. As the events come to memory, I'll write and post them. Here's one such story:In the '90s, I was married, and my wife didn't (as far as I knew, anyway) know about my bi or crossdressing interests. I loved her very much, but I had these other desires I never shared with her. I kept a small bag of lingerie, condoms, and lube...
Mandy's sickest stories - Mandy reloadedAuthor: SickoChickMandyAuthor's email: mandydarkfantasies [at] gmail [dot] comTags: F/f, torture, snuff, feet, nc, cannibalismProofread by EmmaPNote, that English is not my native language, so my writing will surely have many grammatical and syntax errors just as improper usage of expressions. I can only hope someone will still find it exciting. Be aware, this is graphic, brutal and extreme. I read it after writing and scared of myself.DisclaimerThis...
Andrew Running (part 1 of Andrea's Stand) Chapter 1: Running I called my Aunt Clara from the bus station. She didn't seem that surprised to hear from me and when I explained why I was there she told me to walk a couple of blocks to the local diner and get myself a cup of coffee. She'd pick me up in about half an hour. I sat and sipped chocolate milk and tried to eat a pastry while I glanced nervously out of the window waiting for my father to show up and force me into his...