Choto Temple Ch 13
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When I was interviewing Zerzinski this afternoon, I was once again thinking about the vastly different reactions people can have to the whole Donor X phenomenon. As well as to Zerzinski’s specific kind of sexual orientation, and how people respond to that. The evening’s readings were a fascinating exercise in contrast. Rie never came over that night. Presumably, Zerzinski was keeping her occupied. Though I didn’t know, and kept trying not to care. It was a different, though equally...
Interesting things started happening from the moment I left Zerzinski’s house, to walk down the trail to my place. The first thing was only notable in retrospect. Another beautiful Japanese woman was walking toward Zerzinski’s place as I was leaving, as usual. She appeared to be a member of the Choto Temple. At least, most of the women who were older than teenagers seemed to be Choto members. And this one looked to be in her late twenties perhaps. Her face was lacking the usual...
I lived with my ma an' pa an' my two sisters miles from anythin’ civilized tryin’ to scratch out a livin’. My pa failed in everything he tried includin’ farmin’ an' ranchin’ but him an' ma wuz never bitter an' we wuz a fairly happy family even if we wuz dirt poor. That happiness come to an end one day when I come home from my huntin’. Ma an' Pa wuz layin’ face down in the dirt in front of our cabin. My twin sister Beth an' my older sister Philomena wuz kneelin’ beside the bodies...
Introduction: Bill Tinker relate how he acquired lots of wives in late 19th century Texas. My name’s Bill Tinker an' I am 12 years old at the time I’m tellin’ you about late in 19th century Texas. I can pretty much hit anythin' with my slingshot, mostly rabbits but I can hit doves an' pheasants on the fly too. It’s a good thing too or we’d most likely starve to death.I lived with my ma an' pa an' my two sisters miles from anythin’ civilized tryin’ to scratch out a livin’. My pa failed in...
The ranch we bought belonged to a widder that wanted to move to Tarrant County where her son now lived. She already sold off the livestock an’ everything else so there wuzn’t much left except the buildings, a corral an’ fences. Of the buildings there wuz the ranch house, a barn and a bunk house where the hired help stayed. There wuzn’t no hired help left an’ that wuz fine with me. I intended to use that building as sleeping quarters for the children while we gradually built on the main...
Introduction: Bill Tinker relates how he acquired lots of wives in late 19th century Texas. I was telling y’all about moving close to Austin an’ getting another wife but I wuzn’t gonna tell you no more unless you told me how y’all liked my story so far. Well, enough of you said you did that I decided to tell you a bit more. The other wife comes later in my story so I better not get ahead of myself.The ranch we bought belonged to a widder that wanted to move to Tarrant County where her son now...
My name's Bill Tinker an' I am 12 years old at the time I'm tellin' you about late in 19th century Texas. I can pretty much hit anythin' with my slingshot, mostly rabbits but I can hit doves an' pheasants on the fly too. It's a good thing too or we'd most likely starve to death. I lived with my ma an' pa an' my two sisters miles from anythin' civilized tryin' to scratch out a livin'. My pa failed in everything he tried includin' farmin' an' ranchin' but him an' ma wuz never...
Here’s Chapter 2 (of 14, altogether). I really appreciate the feedback, whether by voting or by dropping me a line. Hope you like Chapter 2! ***** ‘I love Japan, and so many things about Japanese culture, but the lack of furniture drives me nuts,’ Zerzinski said, as he sat down on the couch. ‘Why don’t they all get back problems from sitting on the floor all the time?’ he continued. ‘I don’t know how that works.’ He had a warmth about him that I hadn’t expected. I had never met him til...
Last night (Friday night and St. Paddy’s day) Kip and I had a big night. No snow here and Spring Break crowds so we didn’t expect to be snowboarding early on Saturday morning. Some guys we know from Denver were up so it was 4 gay guys hitting the town!!! Kip’s sister was spending the weekend down in Fort Collins or Boulder or somewhere so we had the house to ourselves. 4 gay guys (Kip and I consider ourselves bi), pretty much unlimited speedo supply, a little bit of booze and a hottub – what...
Mariko and Rie both walked in, carrying trays of dinner. ‘I hope we’re not intruding?’ Rie asked. ‘Not at all,’ I said, momentarily having trouble summoning the words. Mariko said something quietly to Rie in Japanese. Rie listened and then translated. ‘Mariko says she’s sorry she never had a chance to give you that lesson with the espresso machine.’ Then, speaking for both of them, she continued. ‘We understand that you leave here in the morning.’ ‘It’s true, unfortunately,’ I said,...
The diary continued for quite some pages. I was looking forward to reading more later. But there was a schedule to keep. I grabbed my notepad and recorder and headed toward Zerzinski’s place. ‘The thing is,’ Zerzinski said matter-of-factly, ‘if I heard some of the things I have said to you when I was younger, I would have thought I was an asshole.’ ‘Even if you understood the context?’ I asked. He smiled. ‘I was a pretty ideological guy, before… I don’t know. I’d like to think with enough...
I was telling y'all about moving close to Austin an' getting another wife but I wuzn't gonna tell you no more unless you told me how y'all liked my story so far. Well, enough of you said you did that I decided to tell you a bit more. The other wife comes later in my story so I better not get ahead of myself. The ranch we bought belonged to a widder that wanted to move to Tarrant County where her son now lived. She already sold off the livestock an' everything else so there wuzn't much...
Hi friends, I am back with another story of me, my wife and one of our hottest roleplay. After returning from our honeymoon from the Maldives, we became more close. Every night in the bed, we used to discuss my wife’s hardcore sex session with two big black cocks and how she turned wild on the bed. My wife made fun saying that my cock was not as big as a ‘black meat’. However, my wife was changed after that incident and she used to fuck me like a slutty pornstar. After a month, one night,...
Reddit HotWife, aka r/HotWife! Well, we’re back at it again. It would seem that we have a new subreddit to review, and this time around it’s /r/HotWife that takes the stage. We all know Reddit.com as a place where you can find pretty much every kind of community. Well, this 18+ community seems to be a very unlikely one because of what it’s supposed to be about. This subreddit is all about people showing off their hot wife as she gets fucked by her boyfriend outside of their marriage. So, you...
Reddit NSFW List"Ok, here are the key clauses for the husband:1. Upon entering this agreement, your status will now be a cuckold or simply cucky. Your wife will be known as the hotwife/mistress and her black owners will be called black bulls.2. Although you are still her husband, you no longer have permission to have any sexual intercourse whatsoever.3. You will be required to wear chastity belt all the time and your hotwife will hold the key to your chastity belt. Or should your hotwife chooses, she can give...
Do you know what a hotwife is? It’s a woman who enjoys the lifestyle of being able to enjoy as many different cocks as she wants while still loving her husband. Of course, for these kinds of women, the dick their husbands provide them with is not enough, so they have to go to other lengths to get the enjoyment they so desperately need. And while you might not be participating in this kind of thing and lifestyle, you might be aroused by it. Maybe you like seeing guys allow their wives to get...
Reddit NSFW ListHey, its me Rajaa back with my new horny story. Directly onto story, i was comming back to my village after 3 years. I was in Mumbai for the past 3 years doing my degree in Photography. I had just completed my degree and was looking for a job. Due to some family issues i had to return to my village. My village was a backward area but because my father was rich, i didn’t face any problem with my studies and my finances. So i am a good looking , well built, rich handsome photographer…. thats what...
Here’s Chapter 3 (of 14, altogether). I really appreciate the feedback, whether by voting, commenting or by dropping me a line. Hope you like Chapter 3! ***** ‘I taught at the public high school in New Canaan,’ Zerzinski told me. ‘One of the few teachers at the school who could afford to live in the town. Thanks to inheritance – the only way any school teacher could possibly live in New Canaan. Unless they’re married to a banker.’ ‘Your parents left you their house?’ I asked. ‘Yeah, the...
HotwifeI woke up during the night with Marcus cuddling me and playing with my pierced nipples, which once again was making me wet.I climbed on top of him and proceeded to rub my pussy all over his hard cock. It wasn't long after that I pushed myself down him which caused us both to orgasm again and then we fell back to sleep.We woke up about ten. We both needed a shower. Marcus proceeded to wash me paying special attention to my pierced nipples and pussy. I decided, 'Two can play this game.'I...
Wife LoversUnderstanding Our Man’s Hotwife Fantasy and How to Use That to Our AdvantageThe fantasy of having a “Hotwife” is growing, in fact, research shows it is growing at a higher rate than a good majority of the other lifestyle alternatives, including the old staple of “swinging” and the modern “open relationship”. Why is it that a fantasy that revolves around only one part of a relationship – the woman – going out and finding pleasure from another man more intriguing to an increasing number of men...
Heather Heather slowly panned her telephoto lens around the crowd of music lovers in the park. She had been assigned to cover the local jazz festival in her role as photographer for the university newspaper. More importantly, this provided her a chance to capture some great shots for her senior portfolio. Her viewfinder found the image of a guy in a tie-dyed shirt and dreadlocks dancing to the wailing saxophone on stage. Heather quickly framed the shot and caught him with hair flying in very...
Hott, Sticky, and Wetttttttttttttttttttttttttttt I was glad that we had finally met, because after several weeks of chatting on the internet and talking on the phone, I was ready to find out if you were really as sexually charged as you said you were. As for me, I knew I was ready and had a lot of dreams of how I was wanting serve you and have you serve me. So, when I called you and let you know what hotel I was staying at, I couldn’t help but notice the joy in your voice, which enticed me even...
Hi, My name is Sanjay Kumar., from Bangalore and am a great fan of ISS. This incident which happened with me last year and I thought it to be a great opportunity to submit my own story. It was a cool morning, when I was alone at home. The doorbell rang and there was a lady standing at the door and she is friend of my wife’s came to visit her. Rahila (her name) and my wife spent a lot of their time with each other, going shopping together, to the beauty parlor and to occasional social functions....
Continuation of hot memories watching other men fucking my wife.I of course i did join in many times but was so hot just watching as my then wife was well used in front of my very eyes and her having some explosive orgasms in the process. We would relive those meetings at bed time, the whole wife sharing thing really enhanced our sex life until it was time for another fix and another get together with our bulls. As mentioned, James near always left Monica quite sore from her 4 hour sessions of...
I had been told that generally on our daily weekday interviews, Zerzinski would be free to talk to me from 9 til 11 each morning, and 2 to 4 each afternoon. A nice amount of time, and a nice way to break it up, I thought. As I also wondered about the particular activities he was engaged with during all those other hours. The generalities were things many people were familiar with. The particulars, far less so. Not only had Zerzinski not given any interviews in a decade, but no member of the...
6 For the first time since I arrived in Yamaguchi, I took a long walk on the mountain. Without leaving the property of the Purification Temple, there’s a walking trail that does a figure 8, passing by various houses and plenty of trees. And some large gardens, with women busily working among the beds of dark soil and healthy-looking plants. At the crossing of the figure 8, there’s a small stone foot bridge that passes over a bubbling creek. Beneath the bridge I noticed there’s a bench...
*** Chapter One: It seemed like any other Wednesday, and I drove my girlfriend home fromClass. I would have liked to spend some time with Lisa, even justdoing boring things like shopping, but she'd told me at lunch that her Momwanted her home early that day to watch her little brother. I offered tohang out with her there, but she turned me down. So, I figured it was as good a time as any to drop the bad news. It waschicken-shit of me, but when I told her something that was bound...
Memories of the times I shared my then very attractive hot wife are tattooed in my mind, the wonderfully erotic memories like pornographic movies of those oh so hot times. Following are some details of some of the more horny things that occurred over 15 years between my wife and I with those horny men we got together with. The major turn on for me was to watch my wife fucked and used by someone else, was my obsession. Her to let her hair down and enjoy the erotic adventures with another man...
Hi dosto mera naam George hai aur me Orissa ka rehena wala hu,ye ek sachhi kahani hai,aur dosto me ye sochta hu ki har ek ladki ko aap chod sakte ho agar woh sex ki pyaasi ho to. Me apne baare me bata ta hu mene MBA kiya hai aur abhi ek MNC me kaam kar raha hu ye kahani tab ki hai jab me graduation me tha aur mere ghar ke saamne ek aunty rehete the waise aunty to bohot saare rehete the colony me par woh Hamare dur ke rishte dar lagte the unka figure 38-30-36 hai aur height 5f 4 hoga rang gora...
Chapter 1Given just how revealing the slutty little outfits are that my hotwife wears to pubs, clubs and bars,I'm amazed that she's never been arrested for indecent exposure, breach of the peace or grossindecency! She constantly pushes out the boundaries of what she wears and what she gets up to.I first met Kim four years ago at a property exhibition I'd rented a stand at. Through an agency I'dhired four promotions girls to help out on the stand. They were all in their twenties,...
Katie Jackson sighed heavily as her body trembled as she slipped into her tight fitting Jeanne cable knit polo neck jumper dress. The grey fabric against her tight body made her breasts protrude out like two perfect sized apples. She decided that she wouldn’t wear any bra or panties. She felt her bareness under the dress and it excited her. She wished her husband was home to take care of her sex starved body but delay after delay prevented him from getting back to Kansas City. Finally he was...
It's been awhile since the adult theater incident and I've not stopped hearing about it. My little slut became a full-blown whore in there and her pussy has been dripping with thoughts of me taking her to the theater once more.But she should know that Masters don't give into whims, in fact, we prefer to be creative. Which leads me to our casino getaway. My wife and I often go to the casinos near where we live -- I enjoy the gambling, she enjoys the free hotel room and all the toys I bring...
It was the third morning of the trip and Evelyn was ready for the day's activities, dressed in a new bikini. While her son was washing himself in the bathroom, she checked her email on her phone and her heart nearly sank. The bathroom door opened and her son came out, noticing her despair. "Is everything okay?" Chris asked, confused by mom's sudden mood change.Evelyn put her phone away and stood barefoot in the hotel room, ready to have some fun. She did her best to be upbeat, even though the...
Well, after the first night with Nigel, next morning we looked at the pics i took of the night. Monica looked at the computer screen with a eager smile as we clicked through 20 or so pics, my cock hard again as we looked at Nigel fucking my wife, thick cock penetrating her cunt, Monica sucking his cock and the cum facial pics causing Monica's jaw to drop and cover her mouth with her hand. She saw just how fantastic she looked being fucked and at the same time being so slutty.After some usual...
Hi ,Friends, Gals,bhabhi n aunty aoor sabhi ko meri oor se hello n very 2 thanks , jin hone meri last story (Hot manju sharma ka hoot 1st real hard sex experience) ko bhut zabardast response diya, mere pass kaafi e mail, aoor phone call aaye, jiskie karan main iss main meri 9th story present karne jaa raha hu , I hope yah bhi aap sabhi ko pahle se bhi jayada jarur pasand aaye gi. Ek baar main aap ko wapas apna introduction de dena chata hu , mera naam manoj hai . hight 6 feet, body fit n fine...
Hi all, I recently posted my real story to ISS and got very good response from ISS readers (one of that is from Jaipur itself and wanted to meet me as she also feels the same way as Leena), very much thankful to ISS management as well as to co-readers who have given very good response to my feeling, as you know me, I am Rahul dev living in Jaipur, Rajasthan height 6’1” weight 98 kgs., well built sporty and very active and decent looking guy. I have my own business of construction. After getting...
IncestHi my name is Rahul (name change). I live in Bangalore. This is a true story; I use to go for jogging in a nearby park after jogging for an hour. I would take a five minute rest on the park bench and then proceed home for my daily chores. One day while taking rest on the park bench as usual, a man in his early 40s came and sat in the same bench. After a while we both exchange a casual smile and I left the park as usual. The very next day he again met me in the park bench. This time he spoke to...
This house is normally shared by lots of people. As you all know, in those regions families have really close bonds. My friend’s was no exception. In fact there were about 15 people packed in this three story house. It was a nice building located at the outskirts of Rabat, with a store that sold spices at street level and two more floors above. Given this, lots of us had to sleep on the couch. Actually it was not as bad as it seems: the typical house in Morocco has the living room...
One of my best friends comes from Morocco. So two years ago I went there with him to visit the country. We spent about a fortnight travelling and then chilled out a bit at his uncle’s house.This house is normally shared by lots of people. As you all know, in those regions families have really close bonds. My friend’s was no exception. In fact there were about 15 people packed in this three story house. It was a nice building located at the outskirts of Rabat, with a store that sold spices at...
"What are you thinking?!" I asked my husband, Nikhil, as he stroked his cock, watching an erotic movie, on our large TV.I was just out of the shower, and wrapped myself in a towel, before stepping into the living room.This was not the first time I had seen him satisfying himself. In-fact, it was a routine exercise, even as we continued to have great sex. But, this was the first time I had seen him so excited.On the screen, a husband & wife were having their first threesome. And, the...
My wife Karen and I won a vacation for 4 to Mexico and were going with our friends Kay and her husband Fats,who is real skinny.Kay has been a friend of ours for a few years,I have known her husband for about 5 years but really get along well with him even though hes 18 years younger.Kay and Karen are very much alike and get along well but do compete with each other.The girls are both exhibitionist,but my wife is more bold then Kay. Karen and I flew to LA and Kay and Fats drove. We...
It was a Friday evening and I was walking aimlessly in forum Mall of Bangalore and Suddenly I heard a voice and Turned back , It was a my friend who worked in my previous company quickly introduce me to his wife and Invited me home to spend the Weekend ,Reluctantly I agreed since there was nothing I planned for the weekend We went to his house after a brief shopping his house was a posh one bedroom apartments with lots of baggage my friend said that he had returned from the gulf in the morning...
Meri flat ke bagal mei Nellu aunty rahti hai.Unke husband Neeraj Uncle dusre city mei job karte the.Par sabse interesting baat toh yeh hai ki,un dono ki ek bahut pyari beti hai Shanvi.Abhi 3 din pehle 18 saal ki hui hai.Rang doodh ki tarah gora,Lambe-Lambe kale baal,Ankhee badi-badi,soft-soft skin,body figure aisa ki kuch bhi fissal jae,ekdum najuk kali ki tarah.Shanvi colony ki sabse sunder aur sexy ladki hai.jawani se bhari hui.Shanvi ek aisi barish ki tarah hai jo kisi bhi khet ko hara-bhara...
Hott, Sticky, and Wetttttttttttttttttttttttttttt I was glad that we had finally met, because after several weeks of chatting on the internet and talking on the phone, I was ready to find out if you were really as sexually charged as you said you were. As for me, I knew I was ready and had a lot of dreams of how I was wanting serve you and have you serve me. So, when I called you and let you know what hotel I was staying at, I couldn’t help but notice the joy in your voice, which enticed me even...
Mera naam Aasha hai. Mera chhota bhai dasvi main padhta hai. Wah gora chitta aur kareeb mere hi barabar lamba bhi hai. Main is samay 19 ki hoon aur wah 15 ka. Mujhe bhayya ke gulabi hoont bahut pyaare lagte hain. Dil karta hai ki bas chaba loon. Papa gulf main hai aur maan government job main. Maan jab job ki wajah se kahin bahar jati tu ghar main bas hum do bhai bahan hi rah jate the. Mere bhai ka naam amit hai aur wah mujhe didi kahta hai. Ek baar maan kuchh dino ke liye bahar gayi thi. Unki...
Chapter 1“Could you take my case downstairs to the hall please, hon? It's a bit heavy!” asked Brandi.“How can it possibly be heavy?” I asked, with a grin on my face. “All your outfits are so skimpy, they don'tweigh any more than a few feathers!”“Oh, very droll, darling! I've got 3 pairs of kinky thigh boots in there, as well as those pvc chaps that you likeso much!”Brandi had started packing for our vacation almost a week ago and I knew that she would be taking someseriously slutty outfits. She...
14 – Dutiful WifeyAfter my day’s adventures, I really felt that I should pay attention to my husband, Liam. I did love him even though I misbehaved from time to time. I wasn’t in the mood, mentally or physically, for sex, but I was going to play the role of a “good wifey”.I greeted my dear husband at the door when he got home from work with his favorite cocktail. Wearing his favorite sheer pink baby doll nightie and some low heels with fluffy pop-poms on the toes, he was favorably impressed, to...
Hey all, this is my second real story here. About me, I am a married guy of 31 years. I am very happy with my married life apart from the sex with my wife. To be very honest, I feel like sex doesn’t have too much to do with the happiness quotient in a successful marriage. From my experience, I feel that a couple might be extremely happy with their married life and the kinkiness or the desire to get laid depends entirely on a person’s need for it. And with age, the hormones or the will to have...
Me apki kamukta kahaniya pad kar hi apni chhoti bahan ko chod paya hu Indian sex stories pe hi me jyada kahani padta tha. Kyuki ispe kahani post karna bahut easy h baki bahut sari websites me kahani read kar chuka hu Ab me apni chhoti bahan ki chudai ki kahani lekar aya hu kahani suru karne se pahle me apko mera intro de deta hu mera name arayaa maaran h (changed) hight 5’5 h or average athletic body h 6 inch ka saaman (loda) h or 5.5 inch diameter h bhopal mp ka rahne wala hu 25 saal ka hu or...
My name is seema and i m from indore. Aap ko meri pahali kahani bhai se raat main sote huwe chudwaya kaise lagi agar aap ne we kahani to zaroor padi hogi agar nahi padi hain to use padh lijiye ga. Naye redars ko main apna intro. De doon. Wese to hamara parmanante ghar indore se 75 km door hain lekin main aur mere dono bhai indore me ek kamre ka room rent par lekar rehte hain. I m 25 year old ham 2 bhai aur 1 sister haien mera 1 bhai mujh se 2 saal bada hai and 1 bhai mujh se chota hai 2...
So my wife is away with work at the minute and I have not seen her for over six weeks, as any of you who read this will know, it is driving me nuts and making me fucking horny!! As a result I have bought an outfit for her to wear when I see her next week and below is outlined how I hope the evening goes when we hook up. The question is should I send her my fantasy or not – everytime I try to send her stuff like this she just thinks I’m a perv, which I am especially when it comes to her. There...
Hello all friends, I am Aniket from Andheri , Mumbai. I am 26 years of age, 5’8″ tall, reasonably good looking, athletic yet with boyish charms. I work with a MNC in Vikroli. My mail address is Coming to the story, it happened a month ago. I was on the way to Mumbai from Pune. Our cab stopped at food mall at khalapur for refreshments. Since I am non-smoker & non-alcoholic, I just took the coffee and I was sipping it while I was wandering around the mall. Rich and beautiful women in their tight...
I love being fucked; I can't believe there is a better sensation than a cock exploding its hot seed inside my tight shaved pussy. I've loved cock since I first experienced one on my eighteenth birthday. Ever since that moment I've had all different sizes and shapes pounding my pussy and on some spectacular occasions, driving into my asshole also. I've always been a slut since my first cock and before I hit 20 I was posing in sexy lingerie for a photographer neighbor whose wife hated me, so...
The titles I use are a chapter, a sub-chapter, and a section. Table of Contents Background Bad News Worse News New Management Sexy Shoot Next Day Truth Will Out The Plan Backfires Afterwards Background My friend Patrick, a photographer, asked me to write about a set of incidents in his life for him. He’s a great photographer and a good story teller, but a lousy writer; thus this commission. Yeah, commission, because he’s paying me to write this story for him. Well, sort of paying me,...
A woman in a kimono with a painted white face stepped out of Zerzinski’s place just as I arrived. She smiled briefly in greeting, and opened a parasol above her head, before descending the stairs. Zerzinski seemed happy. I don’t know why that even seemed notable, but he smiled without any provocation as I entered the house. Soon enough we were sitting across from each other once again, cappuccinos in hand. ‘I’d like to ask you about your move to Yamaguchi. And life since then.’ ‘Well,...
I live in dhaka and we are family of 5 , me ,my 2 sis and my parents. My younger sister Sajia is very friendly and she had lot of girl friends who came over to our house( amar chotobon sajia r onek maye bondhu chilo ).One of her friend liza caught my attention. Liza was short (may be 5 feet 2) but with huge boobs and ass.( choto boner ek bandobi Liza amar nojor a porlo , liza chilo bete khato kintu onek boro dudh chilo ar pasa ta o boro) day by day i fell in love with her. One day i found Liza...
IncestI’m a Bong housewife in Bangalore and desperate for sex! I’m 22 years old and my husband is a software engineer with a MNC. He stays in US for months together and I live alone. I usually resort to masturbation with porn flicks but get bored by the monotony of the activity. There are days when I go to sleep naked and dream about seducing a dark stud from the local neighborhood. I returned home from shopping one late evening in an auto. It was hot weather, I watched the black muscular body of the...
After twenty years of marriage, my wife confessed to a three-year long affair with a co-worker. This happened after the co-worker’s wife learned of the affair.After my wife confessed to her affair, I was a wreck. I left her (and my sons) and moved in with our bachelor friend, staying there about four months. We both discussed divorce; my wife said she was sorry and did not want a divorce. With two sons getting ready to go to college, I decided to stay. It came to a point where it was affecting...
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